Republicans War on Women

Jac, she was thinking about her children - the four she already had. It was her choice, she doesn't regret it, it's none of your business.

I wouldn't have told those stories, but some people share way more personal info that I'm comfortable with. I don't think I would have done the selective reduction, but I've lived enough to never say never.

happy jack wrote:

KarenT wrote:

Jac, she was thinking about her children - the four she already had. It was her choice, she doesn't regret it, it's none of your business.

[b]It kind of became everybody’s business once these women published their sickening rationalizations in the New York Times.
Don't you think?

Ahh Ha! A strong articulate woman speaking out from experience,purposefully telling her side of the story,and having it printed in the NY Times no less. That's what really got you all bent out of shape. I guess in the twisted,warped world of a misogynist like yourself that was the last straw.

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But I’m not grieving over the absence; I don’t have and never have had a single qualm about not bringing that child into the world. I know many women who have grieved greatly over the children they decided not to have, and I am thankful to have been spared that agonizing sadness of guilt and regret. I also know many women who, like me, have felt only gratitude and relief at having been able to take control over their lives safely and legally.

I’m 72 now. I have five grandsons and three granddaughters, and I passionately want each one of them to be responsible and have the same legal right to choose that I had.

The fact that she's not wallowing in guilt and hiding her feelings as if she's a criminal must be killing you. The thought of you fuming over this is absolutely hilarious. Thanks for providing me with the best laugh I've had all day.

George Carlin on conservatives:
They're obsessed with fetuses from conception to nine months, but after that they have no interest in you. None. No day care, no Head Start, no school lunch, no food stamps, no welfare, no nothin'. If you're preborn, you're fine; if you're preschool, you're fucked.
Once you leave the womb, conservatives don't care about you until you reach military age. Then you're just what they're looking for. Conservatives want live babies so they can raise them to be dead soldiers.

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

A strong articulate woman speaking out from experience ,purposefully telling her side of the story,and having it printed in the NY Times no less. That's what really got you all bent out of shape. I guess in the twisted,warped world of a misogynist like yourself that was the last straw.

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[b]Yes, the experience of killing her own babies because she didn’t want “to have to move to Staten Island.

She didn't "kill" anyone. She had a 100% legal medical procedure.

Artie60438 wrote:

The fact that she's not wallowing in guilt and hiding her feelings as if she's a criminal must be killing you.

[b]Nothing is killing [i]me. It is she who was busy deciding which of her babies she wished to kill. Pay attention.

No,you pay attention. She killed no one,so spare us the phony drama. She chose to have a legal medical procedure based on what was best for her family. Get over it and join us in the 21 century where women get to make their own choices in life.

Artie60438 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

A strong articulate woman speaking out from experience ,purposefully telling her side of the story,and having it printed in the NY Times no less. That's what really got you all bent out of shape. I guess in the twisted,warped world of a misogynist like yourself that was the last straw.

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[b]Yes, the experience of killing her own babies because she didn’t want “to have to move to Staten Island.

She didn't "kill" anyone. She had a 100% legal medical procedure.

Artie60438 wrote:

The fact that she's not wallowing in guilt and hiding her feelings as if she's a criminal must be killing you.

[b]Nothing is killing [i]me. It is she who was busy deciding which of her babies she wished to kill. Pay attention.

No,you pay attention. She killed no one,so spare us the phony drama. She chose to have a legal medical procedure based on what was best for her family. Get over it and join us in the 21 century where women get to make their own choices in life.

The procedure involves a shot of potassium chloride to the heart of the fetus.



Paging Doctor Artie- paging Doctor Artie – please demonstrate your medical expertise for all of us and explain:
What do you think is the purpose of a shot of potassium chloride to the heart of a baby, if not to kill said baby?
Yes, you're right - she didn't kill anyone. She simply gave the orders to have the baby killed.

Artie60438 wrote:

Get over it and join us in the 21 century where women get to make their own choices in life.

In which century will the babies get to make their own choices in life?

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

No,you pay attention. She killed no one,so spare us the phony drama. She chose to have a legal medical procedure based on what was best for her family. Get over it and join us in the 21 century where women get to make their own choices in life.

The procedure involves a shot of potassium chloride to the heart of the fetus.
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A fetus isn't a baby,is it? It can't survive at 2 and a half months outside the womb.

I'm now hitting the button as once again you're taking this thread completely off topic.
As I've suggested countless times previously,start a separate topic about abortion instead of disrupting other threads. Bye,bye

Artie60438 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

No,you pay attention. She killed no one,so spare us the phony drama. She chose to have a legal medical procedure based on what was best for her family. Get over it and join us in the 21 century where women get to make their own choices in life.

The procedure involves a shot of potassium chloride to the heart of the fetus.

A fetus isn't a baby,is it? It can't survive at 2 and a half months outside the womb.

I'm now hitting the button as once again you're taking this thread completely off topic.
As I've suggested countless times previously,start a separate topic about abortion instead of disrupting other threads. Bye,bye [/quote]



So what's your point?
A 2-1/2 month-old baby delivered after full term can't survive unaided, either. Is it OK to pump potassium chloride into his heart, too, if he happens to inconvenience us by causing us to shop at Costco?
By the way, buying that Boredom/Tail-Between-Your-Legs Card seems to have been a really wise investment. You've certainly been getting your money's worth out of it of late.

Oh really?

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Ann Romney: ‘We Need To Respect Choices That Women Make’

By Annie-Rose Strasser on Apr 12, 2012

Ann Romney went on television this morning to champion a woman’s right to choose.

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/04/12/463365/ann-romney-choice/

You betcha, Ann.
It's important to respect women's choices as long as their choices are what Republicans want.

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

I'm now hitting the button as once again you're taking this thread completely off topic.
As I've suggested countless times previously,start a separate topic about abortion instead of disrupting other threads. Bye,bye

[b]You introduced the topic of abortion to this thread - don't yap at me about disrupting threads.

There is now a thread soley dedicated to the discussion of abortion,HERE. Please use it and refrain from disrupting other threads. Thanks.

Artie60438 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

I'm now hitting the button as once again you're taking this thread completely off topic.
As I've suggested countless times previously,start a separate topic about abortion instead of disrupting other threads. Bye,bye

[b]You introduced the topic of abortion to this thread - don't yap at me about disrupting threads.

There is now have a thread soley dedicated to the discussion of abortion,HERE. Please use it and refrain from disrupting other threads. Thanks.

No, thanks. I'll keep discussing it on this thread, since this thread was already disrupted by you, long ago, when you introduced the topic of abortion early on.

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

There is now have a thread soley dedicated to the discussion of abortion,HERE. Please use it and refrain from disrupting other threads. Thanks.

No, thanks. I'll keep discussing it on this thread, since this thread was already disrupted by you, long ago, when you introduced the topic of abortion early on.

I suggest that if the resident board troll continues we just ignore him. I know I will.

You are the one who brought up abortion, Artie. Not only that, but then you proceeded to discuss it again, when Jack reintroduced it.

IMHO, it's a bit late to accuse Jack of taking the thread off-topic at this point.

Scorpion wrote:

You are the one who brought up abortion, Artie. Not only that, but then you proceeded to discuss it again, when Jack reintroduced it.

Can you show me where? Thanks

Artie60438 wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

You are the one who brought up abortion, Artie. Not only that, but then you proceeded to discuss it again, when Jack reintroduced it.

Can you show me where? Thanks

Yeah. Well IMHO, once you posted this...

Artie60438 wrote:

Scott Walker's War on Women escalates

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Last Thursday, Scott Walker quietly repealed Wisconsin's equal pay law, sneaking in the bill signing just before his deadline for action, and without fanfare. His office sent a press release out on Friday listing the 50 bills he'd signed the day before, hoping perhaps to hide this little bomb.

But that's not the only stealth attack on women Walker enacted on Thurday. He signed three other bills, rolling back women's rights:

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The first bill bans abortion coverage through policies obtained through a health insurance exchange, set to be created under the federal health care reform law starting in 2014. The only exceptions would be in cases of rape, incest or medical necessity. [...]

The second bill requires a woman seeking an abortion to undergo an exam and consult with a doctor alone, away from her friends and family. The doctor must determine whether someone is pressuring the woman into the procedure. Doctors who break the law could be charged with a felony. [...]

The sex education bill requires teachers in schools that offer sex education to stress abstinence as the only sure way to prevent pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

The bill also declares that sex education teachers do not have to address contraception. That's a dramatic shift from current state law, which requires teachers to instruct students on birth control options.

... you opened the door to a discussion about abortion, because this post specifically characterized Walker's bills limiting abortion rights as part of the "War on Women."

Scorpion wrote:

Yeah. Well IMHO, once you posted this...

Artie60438 wrote:

Scott Walker's War on Women escalates

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Last Thursday, Scott Walker quietly repealed Wisconsin's equal pay law, sneaking in the bill signing just before his deadline for action, and without fanfare. His office sent a press release out on Friday listing the 50 bills he'd signed the day before, hoping perhaps to hide this little bomb.

But that's not the only stealth attack on women Walker enacted on Thurday. He signed three other bills, rolling back women's rights:

Quote :

The first bill bans abortion coverage through policies obtained through a health insurance exchange, set to be created under the federal health care reform law starting in 2014. The only exceptions would be in cases of rape, incest or medical necessity. [...]

The second bill requires a woman seeking an abortion to undergo an exam and consult with a doctor alone, away from her friends and family. The doctor must determine whether someone is pressuring the woman into the procedure. Doctors who break the law could be charged with a felony. [...]

The sex education bill requires teachers in schools that offer sex education to stress abstinence as the only sure way to prevent pregnancy and sexually transmitted diseases.

The bill also declares that sex education teachers do not have to address contraception. That's a dramatic shift from current state law, which requires teachers to instruct students on birth control options.

... you opened the door to a discussion about abortion, because this post specifically characterized Walker's bills limiting abortion rights as part of the "War on Women."

Technically I guess you're right since there is a mention of it in the article.

What I objected to is Jack's posting that op-ed of a woman who did not regret her choice and his obnoxious comment that followed

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Shop-Vac the little bastard right out of me.
I've got other things to do.

that had nothing whatsoever to do with the topic of this thread,nor did the part of the piece he quoted.


Did i over react? I don't know. What I do know is that he has attempted to inject pure abortion issues into other threads on different occasions. I know that several times I suggested that if he was so passionate about the issue he should start a dedicated thread about it,yet each time he ignored the advice.

[quote="Artie60438"]
What I objected to is Jack's posting that op-ed of a woman who did not regret her choice and his obnoxious comment that followed

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Shop-Vac the little bastard right out of me.
I've got other things to do.

If you don't like what she said and did, take it up with her. I was only the messenger.

[quote="happy jack"]

Artie60438 wrote:

What I objected to is Jack's posting that op-ed of a woman who did not regret her choice and his obnoxious comment that followed

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Shop-Vac the little bastard right out of me.
I've got other things to do.

[b]If you don't like what she said and did, take it up with her. I was only the messenger.

I loved what she said and I hope more women come forward to tell their stories. Unfortunately it had nothing to do with this thread.