UN Bailout Plan Now?

This gets my goat. With all the money we already involuntarily "contribute" to the UN now they're telling us it ain't enough?

If we cannot shut down the UN we should at least restructure it's mission and expense. But I really think we were, and would be, better without it entirely. The one constant with the thing is the US taxpayer gets the shaft and the beneficiaries don't even appreciate it. They just demand more!

And second to that poor little Israel can hardly ever get a break in international debates regardless of the facts. The UN's idea of peace for Israel is to support those who favor NO Israel, one piece at a time.

So I ask you, what damned good is the UN? It is inefficient, actually wasteful, a miserable failure at resolving disputes, promotes socialism, and corrupt to the core. It's not even all that great at distributing humanitarian aid.

It's not good and we should exit and stop funding it.

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the US taxpayer gets the shaft and the beneficiaries don't even appreciate it. They just demand more!

Too true. Yet we still have to go around sucking up to them and get in their good graces- give me a break! The next time they need our help- screw em!

The UN doesn't need our help. That's just it! It needs to die. As for humanitarian aid we do that anyway. But like John McCain said we shouldn't be shelling out money to people who don't really like us very much.

Exactly.

But then again this administration enjoys dishing out money to terrorist territories like Palestine, why not continue to give money to nations who don't like us.

Ohhmama wrote:

Exactly.

But then again this administration enjoys dishing out money to terrorist territories like Palestine, why not continue to give money to nations who don't like us.

Sorry,wrong administration...

Aid Request Emphasizes U.S. Support of Palestinian Authority Leadership
By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 31, 2007; Page A15

President Bush has proposed a sixfold increase in aid to the Palestinians, including $150 million in direct cash transfers to the Palestinian Authority, in an effort to bolster the government in advance of a Middle East peace conference planned for later this month in Annapolis.

The $435 million in additional aid, on top of $77 million requested earlier this year, has attracted little notice in the president's $45.9 billion supplemental request last week to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But, if approved, it would constitute the administration's largest amount of direct aid to the Palestinian Authority. Previously, the administration had limited cash transfers to $50 million at a time.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/30/AR2007103001944.html

EHHHH! WRONG!!!! And Wrong again

Artie- it's 2009, keep up!

Ohhmama wrote:

EHHHH! WRONG!!!! And Wrong again

Artie- it's 2009, keep up!

Silly me for forgetting to remember that the last 8 years don't count and are to be ignored.

LOL, no- but I had said this administration...

BTW- Happy St. Paddy's day

Ohhmama wrote:

BTW- Happy St. Paddy's day

Thanks, Same to you

As they say in Irish - Thanks

Artie60438 wrote:

Ohhmama wrote:

Exactly.

But then again this administration enjoys dishing out money to terrorist territories like Palestine, why not continue to give money to nations who don't like us.

Sorry,wrong administration...

Aid Request Emphasizes U.S. Support of Palestinian Authority Leadership
By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Wednesday, October 31, 2007; Page A15

President Bush has proposed a sixfold increase in aid to the Palestinians, including $150 million in direct cash transfers to the Palestinian Authority, in an effort to bolster the government in advance of a Middle East peace conference planned for later this month in Annapolis.

The $435 million in additional aid, on top of $77 million requested earlier this year, has attracted little notice in the president's $45.9 billion supplemental request last week to fund the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. But, if approved, it would constitute the administration's largest amount of direct aid to the Palestinian Authority. Previously, the administration had limited cash transfers to $50 million at a time.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/10/30/AR2007103001944.html

In a word - $900 million just to Gaza alone proposed in less than 30 days on the job? As compared to all the money you cited over 8 years that still doesn't equal the payout for just Gaza. That's some comparison to Bush, I must say.

Mirage wrote:

In a word - $900 million just to Gaza alone proposed in less than 30 days on the job? As compared to all the money you cited over 8 years that still doesn't equal the payout for just Gaza. That's some comparison to Bush, I must say.

Yeah,well maybe Obama wants to seriously try and bring peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Strengthening the Palestinian authority will help in that objective.

Artie no offense, but do you really buy that bs? They and most of those in the Arab world would like nothing more but to see Israel wiped from the face of this earth.

Israel has tried, and tried, and tried to be peaceful neighbors with the Palestinians, but the Palestinians continue to break their "peace treaties".

China's doing well, let them bail out the UN. As for Israel, screw them too. The Middle East probably wouldn't hate us as much if we weren't always pandering to Israel.

Ohhmama wrote:

Artie no offense, but do you really buy that bs? They and most of those in the Arab world would like nothing more but to see Israel wiped from the face of this earth.

Israel has tried, and tried, and tried to be peaceful neighbors with the Palestinians, but the Palestinians continue to break their "peace treaties".

Clinton made a lot of progress there while in office. Then came Bush who totally disengaged from it. Like it or not,the Palestinians aren't going anywhere.

Yes, I remember now, it was Bush who single-handedly launched rockets into Israel breaking the peace treaty... silly me.

Ohhmama wrote:

Yes, I remember now, it was Bush who single-handedly launched rockets into Israel breaking the peace treaty... silly me.

Show me where Bush did anything to help the peace process there. Here's an example of how little he cared about it...

No, your right. In fact it wasn't a golf ball he used in his drive it was a missile...it was teeny-weeny but if you look real close you can make out the shape.

Artie60438 wrote:

Mirage wrote:

In a word - $900 million just to Gaza alone proposed in less than 30 days on the job? As compared to all the money you cited over 8 years that still doesn't equal the payout for just Gaza. That's some comparison to Bush, I must say.

Yeah,well maybe Obama wants to seriously try and bring peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Strengthening the Palestinian authority will help in that objective.

So paying money to terrorists is supposed to make them good guys all of a sudden? Come on! You're smart enough to know that reasoning is a total crock in this situation. Do you honestly believe that at least some of that money won't be going for missiles to kill civilians in restaurants or other public places?

All the intervention in the Middle East to date since the Egyptian accord has done to date is to screw Israel. I'm not blaming any particular administration or party as the state department is about as guilty as anybody and seems to run it's own biased agenda to recommend. But trying to justify this amount of taxpayer money for this use is totally ridiculous because the money won't go where it's supposed to (just like other such efforts historically) because the problem really isn't about anything less than a desire for the extermination of all Jews. Plain & simple. While there admittedly are Palestinians who do not share this disdain for Israelis it looks like all this money we shell out just winds up in the pockets of the thugs & murderers and hardly any of it for the needs of the kind of people it was supposedly intended to help to peacefully coexist.

Show me where Bush did anything to help the peace process there.

With regard to Middle East peace Bush was a moron. I readily admit that! Too bad Obama didn't learn from his mistakes.

Mirage wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

Mirage wrote:

In a word - $900 million just to Gaza alone proposed in less than 30 days on the job? As compared to all the money you cited over 8 years that still doesn't equal the payout for just Gaza. That's some comparison to Bush, I must say.

Yeah,well maybe Obama wants to seriously try and bring peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Strengthening the Palestinian authority will help in that objective.

So paying money to terrorists is supposed to make them good guys all of a sudden? Come on! You're smart enough to know that reasoning is a total crock in this situation. Do you honestly believe that at least some of that money won't be going for missiles to kill civilians in restaurants or other public places?

The money is going to the Palestinian authority,not Hamas.

The money is going to the Palestinian authority,not Hamas.

LMAO

That's like saying your tax money is used to keep the Federal government running. Some of it does, most of it doesn't.

Mirage wrote:

The money is going to the Palestinian authority,not Hamas.

LMAO

That's like saying your tax money is used to keep the Federal government running. Some of it does, most of it doesn't.

Mirage,Would you not agree that the best way to weaken Hamas is to strengthen the PA?

Based upon history no. That would not be the best way. It's not worked yet. In fact the more moderates were voted out in Palestine a few years back. Remember?

Mirage wrote:

Based upon history no. That would not be the best way. It's not worked yet. In fact the more moderates were voted out in Palestine a few years back. Remember?

Yes I do remember and it's just one more thing that we can thank Bush for.

And one more thing Obama is doing worse than Bush and Carter put together.