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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/4/2014, 1:00 pm

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Agreed... except for politicians who publicly attack others for doing things that they do themselves, in private.  

Yes that does ring a bell.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/23/2014, 10:41 am

Once again, liberals are on the rag and, once again, free speech is on the run.



http://www.cnbc.com/id/101698785

Mark Cuban: 'A racist I am not'

Mark Cuban strongly rejected suggestions he's a racist, and accused critics of taking his controversial comments on race out of context. He did, however, apologize for one of the examples he used when admitting he has prejudices.
In an on-stage interview for the GrowCo conference in Nashville, the Dallas Mavericks owner said: "If I see a black kid in a hoodie at night ... on the same side of the street, I'm probably going to walk to the other side of the street." He added that he would also cross the street to avoid "a white guy with a shaved head and lots of tattoos."
But, he continued, "Other than safety issues, I try to always catch my prejudices and recognize and be very self-aware that my stream of thought is never perfect and I've got to be careful. To me, that's part of growing up and what I try to instill in my kids."
Sardonically noting that "someone is going to take this as a media thing," Cuban added what he called a qualification. "I think we're all bigots. I don't think there's any question about that."
But as his father taught him, he added, "of everything and anything you possibly can do, treating anyone differently for race, religion, or any other reason, is wrong. But that doesn't mean you're not going to have those thoughts from time to time. ... You've got to realize when you have those thoughts, they're wrong."
He made similar comments in a separate videotape made for the conference.
Responding to what he considered an unfair report on his comments, Cuban tweeted, "I have my failings and I mentioned those in the interview. But a racist I am not."
He later added, "In hindsight, I should have used different examples. I didn't consider the Trayvon Martin family, and I apologize to them for that." Otherwise, he wrote, "I stand by the words and substance of the interview" and he urged people to watch the full interview.

In a racially charged case that was extensively covered by the media, Martin, a 17-year-old African-American wearing a hoodie, was fatally shot in 2012 by George Zimmerman inside a gated Florida community. Zimmerman claimed self defense and was acquitted of murder charges.
Speaking about an upcoming vote by NBA owners to force Donald Sterling to give up his ownership of the Los Angeles Clippers after he made racist comments, Cuban said: "I don't want to be a hypocrite and I think I might have to be. ... It won't be fun." He did not reveal how he plans to vote.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/26/2014, 7:51 pm

As usual conservatives are on the rag and, once again, free speech is on the run.

Rush Limbaugh: Mark Cuban Proved ‘Hoodie’ Is Now the ‘H-Word’
On Friday, Rush Limbaugh opened his radio show by diving into recent comments Dallas Mavericks owner Mark Cuban made about how own struggles with “bigotry” and “prejudice.” Limbaugh did not seem to have any particular problems with what Cuban said, but was rather offended by his subsequent apology to Trayvon Martin’s family for using a “black kid in a hoodie” as one example of who he would avoid on a dark street.
http://www.mediaite.com/online/rush-limbaugh-mark-cuban-proved-hoodie-is-now-the-h-word/
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 8:47 am

One man, Sterling, privately makes some stupid, racist statements, probably hurting someone's feelings for a few minutes, and the NBA invokes severe sanctions against him.

Fathering illegitimate children isn't exclusive to the NBA, but a few basketball stars raised it to an art form. For a time, Shawn Kemp -- father to seven children by six different women -- was the standard-bearer, but hall-of-famer Calvin Murphy was later revealed to have 14 kids by nine different women.

A couple of other members of the NBA sire a string of 21 children and leave them fatherless, and the NBA yawns.
Who, edge, in your opinion, has a better chance of having a ruined life?
Someone who may have read or heard one of Sterling's stupid statements?
Or one of those 21 fatherless children?
Who, edge, in your opinion, has actually harmed more people?
Sterling or the 'studs'?




edge:

Do you have any intention of answering these questions?
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 10:38 am

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As usual conservatives are on the rag and, once again, free speech is on the run.
Yep,and wingnut wackos have their panties in a knot over fatherless children sired by NBA stars,failing to realize that many,many of these women get pregnant deliberately in order to get child support from these multimillionaires.

Perhaps these wingnut concern trolls would be happier living in a place like China,where the government tells you how many children you are allowed to have. Twisted Evil 

If not,I'm sure the anti-abortion nutjobs the champions pro-life will immediately step up and fill the void left by an absent father,right? No
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 11:15 am

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Yep,and wingnut wackos have their panties in a knot over fatherless children sired by NBA stars,failing to realize that many,many of these women get pregnant deliberately in order to get child support from these multimillionaires.




Are you trying to tell me that the NBA stars are blameless in these situations?
Are you perhaps suggesting that these poor NBA stars/victims were raped by these nefarious women in order to make them liable for child support?
You know, over the years I've seen you post some very, very stupid things, but I think this one definitely merits a spot in your Top Ten.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 12:09 pm

too lazy to do simple research wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
 
Yep,and wingnut wackos have their panties in a knot over fatherless children sired by NBA stars,failing to realize that many,many of these women get pregnant deliberately in order to get child support from these multimillionaires.

Are you trying to tell me that the NBA stars are blameless in these situations?
Are you perhaps suggesting that these poor NBA stars/victims were raped by these nefarious women in order to make them liable for child support?
You know, over the years I've seen you post some very, very stupid things, but I think this one definitely merits a spot in your Top Ten.
The Craziest Baby Mamas in Sports
Quote :
Baby mamas.

It’s the two scariest words in the English language for professional athletes. A combination of money seeking loose women and stupid intoxicated millionaire athletes equals causal intercourse.

And boom goes the dynamite.

The outcome is very expensive for the athlete and as they attempt to shell out enough hush money to keep them quiet.

Rarely are they kept quiet.

Here are 15 athletes that have experienced the wrath of the dreaded baby mama.

The picture above is Travis Henry and six of his nine children.
Now meet Tyna Robinson,a prime example of nefarious gold diggers who prey on wealthy men..
Quote :
October 29, 2006

There are two images of Tyna Robertson.
The devoted, churchgoing mother.

And the conniving extorter of wealthy, gullible men, according to court papers.

A stunning ex-stripper from Joliet, Robertson insists she's not a gold digger -- only a struggling, misunderstood woman faced with raising her infant son on her own.


A Chicago Sun-Times review of hundreds of pages of court documents, however, paints a different tale of Tyna.
Robertson is dogged by years of allegations that she shakes men down for money.

She has had a long list of boyfriends, including boxer Andrew Golata, "Lord of the Dance" star Michael Flatley, several professional ballplayers, even a cabinetmaker and a physical therapist. She speaks Spanish and Polish.

Flatley is suing her and an attorney for $100 million for allegedly making a false allegation that Flatley raped Robertson in Las Vegas. Robertson insists she was raped and wasn't involved in any extortion. Her $35 million lawsuit against Flatley was tossed out of court.

These days, she's best known as the mother of Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher's 17-month-old boy, Kennedy.

Robertson says Urlacher never wanted to have the child. In fact, she told the Sun-Times that she turned down a six-figure offer to have an abortion when she was two months pregnant.

"That's why gold digger doesn't add up. If I just wanted money, I could have aborted the baby," she said.

Her powerhouse family-law attorney, Steve Lake, said: "I don't see her as someone who had a baby to extort money."

Robertson claims that the abortion allegation prompted a settlement in their bitter custody fight.

"They didn't really want anyone to know about that," she said.

Bears officials said Urlacher told them there is "absolutely no truth to it."


'I must be easy on the eyes'
Urlacher's attorney Donald Schiller denied the allegation, saying, "When weighing the truthfulness of her quotes, just look at the source."
Robertson grew up in working-class Joliet, a far cry from the lure of luxury along Rush Street, where she's well-known.

"I must be easy on the eyes," she says, explaining why famous men have courted her. "A lot of professional athletes ask me out, and I've turned them down."

For years, Robertson has had a taste for the good life while struggling financially.

She filed for bankruptcy in 1998, listing a 1998 Corvette valued at $35,000 as a top asset.

The year before, she made $12,000. She listed her occupation as "Sales/Entertainer" but was unemployed then.

She owed thousands of dollars to high-end department stores, including Neiman Marcus, and thousands more to casinos. She admits battling a gambling problem.

"Obviously, I'm not a good gambler," she said.

In a recent court affidavit, Robertson reported similar money woes. She reported about $12,270 a month in expenses -- including $3,000 for a nanny, $2,000 in clothes, $600 for clubs and entertaining, $1,300 for vacations and $500 in children's entertainment. She makes $500 a month.

In the past, to make money, Robertson worked as an exotic dancer at Thee Doll House in Stone Park.

"I'm not proud of it. I wasn't even a good dancer," she said.

The late, renowned private investigator Ernie Rizzo said in an interview before he died that Robertson graduated from stripper to parasite of the rich and famous. Rizzo had investigated Robertson extensively for a client he declined to name.

Robertson disputes Rizzo's conclusion, saying, "It's not in my heart to take advantage of anyone."

Robertson often finds herself in courthouses, whether she's suing someone or getting sued. She's had tiffs with her hairdresser, business partners and even the men she paid to paint her Dodge Viper.

A married west suburban millionaire clashed with Robertson in court.


Sued by businessman
Robertson told the Sun-Times she and the man were just business partners. But another source familiar with the matter said the two were romantically linked.
At first, records show, they appeared to be getting along, buying a Mitsubishi and a house together in west suburban Naperville in 1999.

Soon, the relationship soured.

The businessman sued Robertson in 2001 for $463,149 that she charged on a corporate credit card he had given her, records show. Most of it was gambling debt.

The businessman also got an order of protection against Robertson, ordering her away from his family and business.

The matter was settled out of court, with the businessman eating much of the charges, a source said.


Dancer countersues
Robertson got her first taste of national exposure when she alleged in 2003 that star Irish dancer Michael Flatley raped her in a Las Vegas hotel the year before. Flatley said the sex was consensual.
That lawsuit was tossed out, and Flatley countersued her and the lawyer representing her for $100 million for civil extortion and defamation. The lawsuit is pending. Robertson said she had nothing to do with any extortion alleged in the complaint.

Flatley contends Robertson "had followed a pattern and practice of extorting money and other financial benefits from men."

Flatley suggests Robertson was lining up witnesses even before they went to bed.

The two ate dinner at Lutece Restaurant, where Robertson ordered chocolate cake to come before her dinner and later made a fuss -- all to make sure the waiter remembered her and who she was dining with, Flatley alleges.

Robertson later noted the name of the hotel employee who showed her to Flatley's suite, Flatley alleges.


'Mr. Suave, he's not'
As for Urlacher, Robertson met him at a Chicago nightclub, where they hit it off and talked all night long.
"He was nervous and shy and everything. Mr. Suave he's not," she said.

They dated for a bit, but Robertson had her eye on someone else.

"I told Brian to kick rocks," she said. "Then I found out I was pregnant."

Robertson said when she broke the news to Urlacher, he asked her to have an abortion. When she refused, Urlacher asked her to move out of state, according to a court filing that includes a series of text messages that Urlacher -- who has two daughters -- allegedly sent to Robertson.

One message allegedly sent on Nov. 10, 2004, reads: "UR right I don't want anymore kids and its 2 bad U want 2 bring a child into this situation when it could B avoided," court records show.

Their son was born May 20, 2005, but Urlacher did not meet him until July 22 and only spent 15 minutes with the boy on that day, according to court documents.

But in September 2005, Urlacher sought to establish paternity and seek full custody of the boy, whom he proudly included in his Bears media guide biography. Through a Bears spokesman, Urlacher declined a request for an interview.

Despite the venomous court battle between them, Robertson says she still has a soft spot for Urlacher.

They flirted a bit and "played footsies under the table" during a sit-down with their child custody attorneys, she said.

She said she wants to make sure Kennedy has a good life and is putting her trust in God.

Her son "is like Bamm-Bamm from the Flintstones. If he picks up the couch some day it will not surprise me," she said. "He definitely is Brian's son."

"If it wasn't for God, I never would have made it through this. I go to church six to seven times a week for morning prayer. That's why I'm not angry at Brian," she said.

Robertson says she's not sure if they'll ever get back together. Still, she was interested in whether Urlacher was with an old flame, Paris Hilton, when Hilton was in town a few days ago.

In a text message to a reporter at 11:35 p.m. Thursday, Robertson asked, "Paris Hilton is in town are they together?"
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...cher29.article
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 2:22 pm

happy jack wrote:
One man, Sterling, privately makes some stupid, racist statements, probably hurting someone's feelings for a few minutes, and the NBA invokes severe sanctions against him.

Fathering illegitimate children isn't exclusive to the NBA, but a few basketball stars raised it to an art form. For a time, Shawn Kemp -- father to seven children by six different women -- was the standard-bearer, but hall-of-famer Calvin Murphy was later revealed to have 14 kids by nine different women.

A couple of other members of the NBA sire a string of 21 children and leave them fatherless, and the NBA yawns.
Who, edge, in your opinion, has a better chance of having a ruined life?
Someone who may have read or heard one of Sterling's stupid statements?
Or one of those 21 fatherless children?
Who, edge, in your opinion, has actually harmed more people?
Sterling or the 'studs'?




edge:

Do you have any intention of answering these questions?
jack:
Sure, I can your question.
I have no idea as to who is "harmed more."
You're faux concern for those fatherless children is duly noted.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 3:35 pm

Artie60438 wrote:
too lazy to do simple research wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
 
Yep,and wingnut wackos have their panties in a knot over fatherless children sired by NBA stars,failing to realize that many,many of these women get pregnant deliberately in order to get child support from these multimillionaires.

Are you trying to tell me that the NBA stars are blameless in these situations?
Are you perhaps suggesting that these poor NBA stars/victims were raped by these nefarious women in order to make them liable for child support?
You know, over the years I've seen you post some very, very stupid things, but I think this one definitely merits a spot in your Top Ten.
The Craziest Baby Mamas in Sports
Quote :
Baby mamas.

It’s the two scariest words in the English language for professional athletes. A combination of money seeking loose women and stupid intoxicated millionaire athletes equals causal intercourse.

And boom goes the dynamite.

The outcome is very expensive for the athlete and as they attempt to shell out enough hush money to keep them quiet.

Rarely are they kept quiet.

Here are 15 athletes that have experienced the wrath of the dreaded baby mama.

The picture above is Travis Henry and six of his nine children.
Now meet Tyna Robinson,a prime example of nefarious gold diggers who prey on wealthy men..
Quote :
October 29, 2006

There are two images of Tyna Robertson.
The devoted, churchgoing mother.

And the conniving extorter of wealthy, gullible men, according to court papers.

A stunning ex-stripper from Joliet, Robertson insists she's not a gold digger -- only a struggling, misunderstood woman faced with raising her infant son on her own.


A Chicago Sun-Times review of hundreds of pages of court documents, however, paints a different tale of Tyna.
Robertson is dogged by years of allegations that she shakes men down for money.

She has had a long list of boyfriends, including boxer Andrew Golata, "Lord of the Dance" star Michael Flatley, several professional ballplayers, even a cabinetmaker and a physical therapist. She speaks Spanish and Polish.

Flatley is suing her and an attorney for $100 million for allegedly making a false allegation that Flatley raped Robertson in Las Vegas. Robertson insists she was raped and wasn't involved in any extortion. Her $35 million lawsuit against Flatley was tossed out of court.

These days, she's best known as the mother of Chicago Bears linebacker Brian Urlacher's 17-month-old boy, Kennedy.

Robertson says Urlacher never wanted to have the child. In fact, she told the Sun-Times that she turned down a six-figure offer to have an abortion when she was two months pregnant.

"That's why gold digger doesn't add up. If I just wanted money, I could have aborted the baby," she said.

Her powerhouse family-law attorney, Steve Lake, said: "I don't see her as someone who had a baby to extort money."

Robertson claims that the abortion allegation prompted a settlement in their bitter custody fight.

"They didn't really want anyone to know about that," she said.

Bears officials said Urlacher told them there is "absolutely no truth to it."


'I must be easy on the eyes'
Urlacher's attorney Donald Schiller denied the allegation, saying, "When weighing the truthfulness of her quotes, just look at the source."
Robertson grew up in working-class Joliet, a far cry from the lure of luxury along Rush Street, where she's well-known.

"I must be easy on the eyes," she says, explaining why famous men have courted her. "A lot of professional athletes ask me out, and I've turned them down."

For years, Robertson has had a taste for the good life while struggling financially.

She filed for bankruptcy in 1998, listing a 1998 Corvette valued at $35,000 as a top asset.

The year before, she made $12,000. She listed her occupation as "Sales/Entertainer" but was unemployed then.

She owed thousands of dollars to high-end department stores, including Neiman Marcus, and thousands more to casinos. She admits battling a gambling problem.

"Obviously, I'm not a good gambler," she said.

In a recent court affidavit, Robertson reported similar money woes. She reported about $12,270 a month in expenses -- including $3,000 for a nanny, $2,000 in clothes, $600 for clubs and entertaining, $1,300 for vacations and $500 in children's entertainment. She makes $500 a month.

In the past, to make money, Robertson worked as an exotic dancer at Thee Doll House in Stone Park.

"I'm not proud of it. I wasn't even a good dancer," she said.

The late, renowned private investigator Ernie Rizzo said in an interview before he died that Robertson graduated from stripper to parasite of the rich and famous. Rizzo had investigated Robertson extensively for a client he declined to name.

Robertson disputes Rizzo's conclusion, saying, "It's not in my heart to take advantage of anyone."

Robertson often finds herself in courthouses, whether she's suing someone or getting sued. She's had tiffs with her hairdresser, business partners and even the men she paid to paint her Dodge Viper.

A married west suburban millionaire clashed with Robertson in court.


Sued by businessman
Robertson told the Sun-Times she and the man were just business partners. But another source familiar with the matter said the two were romantically linked.
At first, records show, they appeared to be getting along, buying a Mitsubishi and a house together in west suburban Naperville in 1999.

Soon, the relationship soured.

The businessman sued Robertson in 2001 for $463,149 that she charged on a corporate credit card he had given her, records show. Most of it was gambling debt.

The businessman also got an order of protection against Robertson, ordering her away from his family and business.

The matter was settled out of court, with the businessman eating much of the charges, a source said.


Dancer countersues
Robertson got her first taste of national exposure when she alleged in 2003 that star Irish dancer Michael Flatley raped her in a Las Vegas hotel the year before. Flatley said the sex was consensual.
That lawsuit was tossed out, and Flatley countersued her and the lawyer representing her for $100 million for civil extortion and defamation. The lawsuit is pending. Robertson said she had nothing to do with any extortion alleged in the complaint.

Flatley contends Robertson "had followed a pattern and practice of extorting money and other financial benefits from men."

Flatley suggests Robertson was lining up witnesses even before they went to bed.

The two ate dinner at Lutece Restaurant, where Robertson ordered chocolate cake to come before her dinner and later made a fuss -- all to make sure the waiter remembered her and who she was dining with, Flatley alleges.

Robertson later noted the name of the hotel employee who showed her to Flatley's suite, Flatley alleges.


'Mr. Suave, he's not'
As for Urlacher, Robertson met him at a Chicago nightclub, where they hit it off and talked all night long.
"He was nervous and shy and everything. Mr. Suave he's not," she said.

They dated for a bit, but Robertson had her eye on someone else.

"I told Brian to kick rocks," she said. "Then I found out I was pregnant."

Robertson said when she broke the news to Urlacher, he asked her to have an abortion. When she refused, Urlacher asked her to move out of state, according to a court filing that includes a series of text messages that Urlacher -- who has two daughters -- allegedly sent to Robertson.

One message allegedly sent on Nov. 10, 2004, reads: "UR right I don't want anymore kids and its 2 bad U want 2 bring a child into this situation when it could B avoided," court records show.

Their son was born May 20, 2005, but Urlacher did not meet him until July 22 and only spent 15 minutes with the boy on that day, according to court documents.

But in September 2005, Urlacher sought to establish paternity and seek full custody of the boy, whom he proudly included in his Bears media guide biography. Through a Bears spokesman, Urlacher declined a request for an interview.

Despite the venomous court battle between them, Robertson says she still has a soft spot for Urlacher.

They flirted a bit and "played footsies under the table" during a sit-down with their child custody attorneys, she said.

She said she wants to make sure Kennedy has a good life and is putting her trust in God.

Her son "is like Bamm-Bamm from the Flintstones. If he picks up the couch some day it will not surprise me," she said. "He definitely is Brian's son."

"If it wasn't for God, I never would have made it through this. I go to church six to seven times a week for morning prayer. That's why I'm not angry at Brian," she said.

Robertson says she's not sure if they'll ever get back together. Still, she was interested in whether Urlacher was with an old flame, Paris Hilton, when Hilton was in town a few days ago.

In a text message to a reporter at 11:35 p.m. Thursday, Robertson asked, "Paris Hilton is in town are they together?"
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/1...cher29.article



What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Do these women somehow miraculously find themselves carrying the babies of these wealthy athletes, or do you think that the athletes have maybe just a little, a wee tiny bit , a mere speck of responsibility in these situations?
Is it possible that they could maybe, you know, not sleep with these women in the first place?
Or are you perhaps suggesting that these nefarious women sneak into the hotel rooms of the star athletes while they are sleeping, steal their sperm, and impregnate themselves with a turkey baster?
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 3:37 pm

edge540 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
One man, Sterling, privately makes some stupid, racist statements, probably hurting someone's feelings for a few minutes, and the NBA invokes severe sanctions against him.

Fathering illegitimate children isn't exclusive to the NBA, but a few basketball stars raised it to an art form. For a time, Shawn Kemp -- father to seven children by six different women -- was the standard-bearer, but hall-of-famer Calvin Murphy was later revealed to have 14 kids by nine different women.

A couple of other members of the NBA sire a string of 21 children and leave them fatherless, and the NBA yawns.
Who, edge, in your opinion, has a better chance of having a ruined life?
Someone who may have read or heard one of Sterling's stupid statements?
Or one of those 21 fatherless children?
Who, edge, in your opinion, has actually harmed more people?
Sterling or the 'studs'?




edge:

Do you have any intention of answering these questions?
jack:
Sure, I can your question.
I have no idea as to who is "harmed more."
You're faux concern for those fatherless children is duly noted.



A kid spends his entire life growing up in a single-parent home, and a whiny, hypersensitive nitwit has the vapors because some blowhard made a general derogatory comment about his race.
And you can’t figure out who got the short end of the stick?
Really?
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 4:09 pm

[quote="happy jack"]
edge540 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
One man, Sterling, privately makes some stupid, racist statements, probably hurting someone's feelings for a few minutes, and the NBA invokes severe sanctions against him.

Fathering illegitimate children isn't exclusive to the NBA, but a few basketball stars raised it to an art form. For a time, Shawn Kemp -- father to seven children by six different women -- was the standard-bearer, but hall-of-famer Calvin Murphy was later revealed to have 14 kids by nine different women.

A couple of other members of the NBA sire a string of 21 children and leave them fatherless, and the NBA yawns.
Who, edge, in your opinion, has a better chance of having a ruined life?
Someone who may have read or heard one of Sterling's stupid statements?
Or one of those 21 fatherless children?
Who, edge, in your opinion, has actually harmed more people?
Sterling or the 'studs'?




edge:

Do you have any intention of answering these questions?
jack:
Sure, I can your question.
I have no idea as to who is "harmed more."
You're faux concern for those fatherless children is duly noted.



Quote :
A kid spends his entire life growing up in a single-parent home,

Huh?
"entire life"...? Are you spending your entire life with your parent/parents? Given that his father might be a jackass isn't it possible he's better off?


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and a whiny, hypersensitive nitwit has the vapors because some blowhard made a general derogatory comment about his race.

I'm a little puzzled, if it's not such a big deal why do you support the NBA and the whiny, hypersensitive nitwit who has the vapors?
according to you...
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Yes, I do support the NBA in this case. It is well within the realm of its operators to establish their own organizational philosophy and to insist that its members adhere to it.


So who is this whiny, hypersensitive nitwit that has the vapors you're whining about?


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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 4:11 pm

[quote="happy jack"]
Artie60438 wrote:
too lazy to do simple research wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
 
Yep,and wingnut wackos have their panties in a knot over fatherless children sired by NBA stars,failing to realize that many,many of these women get pregnant deliberately in order to get child support from these multimillionaires.

Are you trying to tell me that the NBA stars are blameless in these situations?
Are you perhaps suggesting that these poor NBA stars/victims were raped by these nefarious women in order to make them liable for child support?
You know, over the years I've seen you post some very, very stupid things, but I think this one definitely merits a spot in your Top Ten.
The Craziest Baby Mamas in Sports
Quote :
Baby mamas.

It’s the two scariest words in the English language for professional athletes. A combination of money seeking loose women and stupid intoxicated millionaire athletes equals causal intercourse.

And boom goes the dynamite.

The outcome is very expensive for the athlete and as they attempt to shell out enough hush money to keep them quiet.

Rarely are they kept quiet.

Here are 15 athletes that have experienced the wrath of the dreaded baby mama.

The picture above is Travis Henry and six of his nine children.
Now meet Tyna Robinson,a prime example of nefarious gold diggers who prey on wealthy men..
Quote :
October 29, 2006

There are two images of Tyna Robertson.
The devoted, churchgoing mother.

And the conniving extorter of wealthy, gullible men, according to court papers.

A stunning ex-stripper from Joliet, Robertson insists she's not a gold digger -- only a struggling, misunderstood woman faced with raising her infant son on her own.
[b]What the fuck does that have to do with anything?
It shows that there a significant number of women who go after wealthy athletes or other men with their main goal to enrich themselves. Sterling's squeeze V. Staviano is a perfect example.
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Do these women somehow miraculously find themselves carrying the babies of these wealthy athletes, or do you think that the athletes have maybe just a little, a wee tiny bit , a mere speck of responsibility in these situations?
Many of these athletes are not the brightest bulbs to begin with. Eddy Curry of the Bulls is another prime example.
Is it possible that they could maybe, you know, not sleep with these women in the first place?
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Or are you perhaps suggesting that these nefarious women sneak into the hotel rooms of the star athletes while they are sleeping, steal their sperm, and impregnate themselves with a turkey baster?
No,but many of them are smart and cunning professional con-artists. Walk into any strip club and flash a big wad of money to whoever takes your cocktail order and then watch all the attention you'll soon be getting from women that will fall all over you but normally wouldn't give you a second look. These women go to work every night with only one thing in mind,to separate as many men as they can from their money. It's no different for the women who prey on professional athletes who often think with their little head instead of the one on their shoulders.



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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 5:29 pm

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Artie60438 wrote:
too lazy to do simple research wrote:
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Yep,and wingnut wackos have their panties in a knot over fatherless children sired by NBA stars,failing to realize that many,many of these women get pregnant deliberately in order to get child support from these multimillionaires.

Are you trying to tell me that the NBA stars are blameless in these situations?
Are you perhaps suggesting that these poor NBA stars/victims were raped by these nefarious women in order to make them liable for child support?
You know, over the years I've seen you post some very, very stupid things, but I think this one definitely merits a spot in your Top Ten.
The Craziest Baby Mamas in Sports
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Baby mamas.

It’s the two scariest words in the English language for professional athletes. A combination of money seeking loose women and stupid intoxicated millionaire athletes equals causal intercourse.

And boom goes the dynamite.

The outcome is very expensive for the athlete and as they attempt to shell out enough hush money to keep them quiet.

Rarely are they kept quiet.

Here are 15 athletes that have experienced the wrath of the dreaded baby mama.

The picture above is Travis Henry and six of his nine children.
Now meet Tyna Robinson,a prime example of nefarious gold diggers who prey on wealthy men..
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October 29, 2006

There are two images of Tyna Robertson.
The devoted, churchgoing mother.

And the conniving extorter of wealthy, gullible men, according to court papers.

A stunning ex-stripper from Joliet, Robertson insists she's not a gold digger -- only a struggling, misunderstood woman faced with raising her infant son on her own.
What the fuck does that have to do with anything?

It shows that there a significant number of women who go after wealthy athletes or other men with their main goal to enrich themselves.  Sterling's squeeze V. Staviano is a perfect example.

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Do these women somehow miraculously find themselves carrying the babies of these wealthy athletes, or do you think that the athletes have maybe just a little, a wee tiny bit , a mere speck of responsibility in these situations?

Many of these athletes are not the brightest bulbs to begin with. Eddy Curry of the Bulls is another prime example.
Is it possible that they could maybe, you know, not sleep with these women in the first place?

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Or are you perhaps suggesting that these nefarious women sneak into the hotel rooms of the star athletes while they are sleeping, steal their sperm, and impregnate themselves with a turkey baster?

No,but many of them are smart and cunning professional con-artists. Walk into any strip club and flash a big wad of money to whoever takes your cocktail order and then watch all the attention you'll soon be getting from women that will fall all over you but normally wouldn't give you a second look. These women go to work every night with only one thing in mind,to separate as many men as they can from their money. It's no different for the women who prey on professional athletes who often think with their little head instead of the one on their shoulders.







And not a single thing in this post absolves the athletes for fathering and then abandoning their children.
I realize that the type of sex with which you are most familiar involves only one person, but in order for sex to result in a child requires two people.




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Walk into any strip club and flash a big wad of money to whoever takes your cocktail order and then watch all the attention you'll soon be getting from women that will fall all over you but normally wouldn't give you a second look.





Speaking from experience, no doubt.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 5:38 pm

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I'm a little puzzled, if it's not such a big deal why do you support the NBA and the whiny, hypersensitive nitwit who has the vapors?
according to you...
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Yes, I do support the NBA in this case. It is well within the realm of its operators to establish their own organizational philosophy and to insist that its members adhere to it.





I support the NBA in this case because it is a private organization and, as such, should be allowed to make its own rules and bylaws.



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So who is this whiny, hypersensitive nitwit that has the vapors you're whining about?




Who?
Just about anyone I’ve heard freaking out about it, that’s who.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 5:59 pm

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edge540 wrote:

I'm a little puzzled, if it's not such a big deal why do you support the NBA and the whiny, hypersensitive nitwit who has the vapors?
according to you...
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Yes, I do support the NBA in this case. It is well within the realm of its operators to establish their own organizational philosophy and to insist that its members adhere to it.





I support the NBA in this case because it is a private organization and, as such, should be allowed to make its own rules and bylaws.



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So who is this whiny, hypersensitive nitwit that has the vapors you're whining about?




Who?
Just about anyone I’ve heard freaking out about it, that’s who.

Looks to me like the only one freaking out about this

is you.

Personally I find all this tabloid nonsense boring, I could care less what billionaire NBA owners do or don't do. I really don't give a shit.
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And not a single thing in this post absolves the athletes for fathering and then abandoning their children.

So how in the fuck do you know that the fathers "abandoned" their children?...oh wait that's right, you fucking don't, you're just pulling shit out your ass.

Of course that's what conservatives do best.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 6:41 pm

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  So how in the fuck do you know that the fathers "abandoned" their children?



For a time, Shawn Kemp -- father to seven children by six different women -- was the standard-bearer, ….


Assuming that Kemp lives with the mother of one or more of his children (which we do not know to be the case), then he has abandoned at least 5 other children.


…. but hall-of-famer Calvin Murphy was later revealed to have 14 kids by nine different women.


Assuming that Murphy lives with the mother of one or more of his children (which we do not know to be the case), then he has abandoned at least 9 other children.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 8:47 pm

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Walk into any strip club and flash a big wad of money to whoever takes your cocktail order and then watch all the attention you'll soon be getting from women that will fall all over you but normally wouldn't give you a second look.





Speaking from experience, no doubt.
Yes,indeed!
FYI,I associated with many of the owners and front men for these clubs when they were located on Rush St back in the 70's. I never,ever,paid for drinks. Instead I was treated with the utmost respect due to connections I had with certain people. I got to know and hooked up regularly with several of the girls that worked at these places. I liked going there and enjoyed watching the girls pick the suckers (small town bumpkins like yourself) clean.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 8:52 pm

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And not a single thing in this post absolves the athletes for fathering and then abandoning their children.

So how in the fuck do you know that the fathers "abandoned" their children?...oh wait that's right, you fucking don't, you're just pulling shit out your ass.
Yes,and if the idiot had done the slightest bit of research he would see that many of these athletes pay child support and take care of them.
Edge wrote:
Of course that's what conservatives do best.
Yes,when they're not busy trying to cut funding for school lunch programs or initiatives like "Head Start".
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/27/2014, 8:57 pm

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   .... many of these athletes pay child support and take care of them.



Take care of them?
By leaving them to be raised by a single mother?
That's called 'abandonment'.
(By the way - which athletes pay child support and take care of the children?)
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   .... many of these athletes pay child support and take care of them.



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Take care of them?
By leaving them to be raised by a single mother?
That's called 'abandonment'.

Ah, so the fact that 50% of all American marriages end in divorce means that all those fathers (or mothers) "abandon" their children? Do you pretend to be outraged by that too?

And how about all these republicans who have "abandoned" their children?...why no outrage?

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List of prominent Republicans (divorced)

-Ronald Reagan - divorced the mother of two of his children. Married Nancy Davis who bore him a daughter only 7 months after the marriage.
-Bob Dole - divorced the mother of his child, who had nursed him through the long recovery from his war wounds.
-Newt Gingrich - divorced his wife who was dying of cancer.
-Dick Armey - Former House Majority Leader - divorced
-Sen. Phil Gramm of Texas - divorced
-Gov. John Engler of Michigan - divorced
-Former Gov. Pete Wilson of California - divorced
-George Will - divorced
-Sen. Lauch Faircloth - divorced
-Rush Limbaugh - Rush and his current wife Marta have six marriages and four divorces between them.
-Rep. Bob Barr of Georgia - Barr has been married three times. Barr had the audacity to author and push the "Defense of Marriage Act."
-Sen. Alfonse D'Amato of New York - divorced
-Sen. John Warner of Virginia - divorced (once married to Liz Taylor)
-Gov. George Allen of Virginia - divorced
-Henry Kissinger - divorced
-Rep. Helen Chenoweth of Idaho - divorced
-Sen. John McCain of Arizona - divorced
-Rep. John Kasich of Ohio - divorced
-Rep. Susan Molinari of New York (2000 Republican National Convention Keynote Speaker) - divorced

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(By the way - which athletes pay child support and take care of the children?)

I have no idea, do you?
Do you know which of the republicans above support and take care of their "abandoned" children?

BTW, what the fuck business is it of yours anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/28/2014, 10:01 am

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Personally I find all this tabloid nonsense boring, I could care less what billionaire NBA owners do or don't do. I really don't give a shit.

Of course you find all of this “boring”, and you “really don’t give a shit” about it. That, apparently, is the reason you’ve been actively participating in this thread for the last five pages.



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Ah, so the fact that 50% of all American marriages end in divorce means that all those fathers (or mothers) "abandon" their children? Do you pretend to be outraged by that too?

No, I’m not “outraged”, but it is certainly sad. Divorce, especially when children are involved, is an unfortunate reality.
Sometimes  married couples produce children and, due to the inability to make the marriage work, cause those children to live with one parent or the other.
Other times, a guy hops around from hotel room to hotel room, pumps sperm into any woman he finds in there, impregnates her, and moves along to the next hotel room.
I don’t have a hard time drawing a distinction between those two situations.




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(By the way - which athletes pay child support and take care of the children?)

I have no idea, do you?

No, none whatsoever.
Why don’t you ax Artie? He’s the one who made the claim.





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BTW, what the fuck business is it of yours anyway?

What the fuck business is it of yours, or anyone else's, when someone privately speaks his mind?
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/28/2014, 10:09 am

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FYI,I associated with many of the owners and front men for these clubs when they were located on Rush St back in the 70's. I never,ever,paid for drinks. Instead I was treated with the utmost respect due to connections I had with certain people. I got to know and hooked up regularly with several of the girls that worked at these places. I liked going there and enjoyed watching the girls pick the suckers (small town bumpkins like yourself) clean.
Those were the days Cool



And every one of us on this forum believes you.
Wholeheartedly.
Yes, we all do.
Really.
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/28/2014, 10:42 am

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Of course you find all of this “boring”, and you “really don’t give a shit” about it. That, apparently, is the reason you’ve been actively participating in this thread for the last five pages.

The story itself is boring, talking about here is the fun part.

happy jack wrote:

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BTW, what the fuck business is it of yours anyway?

What the fuck business is it of yours, or anyone else's, when someone privately speaks his mind?
Never said it was my business.
Since Sterling is a public figure and an NBA owner, it's certainly the NBA's business.

Just curious jack, if you were an NBA owner would you vote to oust Sterling or not?
http://www.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2014-05-27/clippers-sale-nba-vote-donald-sterling-billion-offer-lifetime-ban-shelly-sterling-adam-silvern
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PostSubject: Re: Donald Sterling scandal   5/28/2014, 11:07 am

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Just curious jack, if you were an NBA owner would you vote to oust Sterling or not?
 



No, I would not vote to oust him.
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