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Scorpion wrote:
UrRight wrote:
Yeah, so as in the past, has any poll even if it's Ransomonia doing it...what does it do,but try to impress upon American's nationwide a few select, made the poll?

Yeah, well I would try to answer this, but I don't have my Palin --> English dictionary handy.

That was my point, Scorpion. You can call any poll you want, dig up any poll you want, the fact is, no matter what poll you put out there at any given time, will show biased figures. In fact, full of shitz results.

I base my opinion on real time news, reading, watching every station, visiting every website. I can tell you this much, without reciting any poll, the American people feel decieved that voted for him.

Why?
Transparency, Honesty, Bi-Partanianship, and Accountability was what he led the voters to believe in and show me where he ever once did any of those things. He's in deep crap with people that voted for him, and were mislead.
He's not comptentent to use his own skills and minds to be a POTUS. He'll be impeached for incompetence before his term ends, unless he makes a "U-Turn".

When I listened to him speak on C-Span, Fox, etc., it's like listening to someone that wrote what he had to say. There were no signs of body language...enforcing what he meant. He's programmed like a robot.

He's not a leader. He lied when he said he would put the negotiations based on health care on C-Span; he lied when he said "Washington will never be the Washington, D.C. as before". Of course, like all politicians, once in office..they forgot what they said 8 times over about putting the final negotiations on the Health Reform on C-Span and has been way less than "transparent" on every topic. We can't build a bridge (Cline Avenue), but we most certainly can save Haiti. I have nothing but empathy towards their disaster, but all thanks are a magical wand when another country needs help. Guess what? We need a little bit of money here to fix something that contributes money to the gov't, but our politicians don't have the money, and it will take four years for Cline Ave. Magically, we can rebuild an island in less than a year. That's the USA...always a hand for others but their own.

We as Americans' don't even have a clue what the health bill entails. He promised bi-partisian on that, transparency...he shut the Republicans out, and went behind closed doors. No word to us what the hell is going on. Call that honesty ?

I call it, typical of any politician..."What's in it for me?"

And screw those idiots that "we" as taxpayers, payr their payroll.
The End.
Ten million homes or One Hundred MILLION homes will go into foreclosure in the US this summer. The latest I posted was from a few weeks ago. All I know is, there will be tons of people out of work, and the economy will collapse like never before. I don't need a fortune teller to tell me...I see it with my own eyes...and based on latest reports. We're dead meat.

Everyone, almost everyone I know just got laid off (the rest of who I know) from union jobs, down to plain ole' fork lifting jobs...their houses will go into foreclosure once the unemployment runs out. It's a matter of time.

Just Monday they announced how great the retail business did during Dec...this week, same week, Thursday, today, it's called, "DOWN!"
See, whatever makes the news. Just like the polls..just like WallStreet, just like the gas prices...the US is full of shitz under the POTUS and the last POTUS. Bill Clinton turned the economy around. May have had a blue dress with stains, but if that's what it takes.... I'd take that over the messy economy we have with POTUS impressing his wife, family, going on trips and taking his gang with him wherever he goes.
He left Chicago, but he took the "machine" with him.

I apologize for any mispelled words...buffer flies all over, and wiggles. Geek Squad still can't figure out what the problem is. Time to sue Dell. Don't ever buy from Dell....


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I was making fun of the poll, call Ram....just like I make fun of the stock market, calling one, "Nasquack".
I have a question for you...if it does come down to abandoned homes, repossessed homes, foreclosures, who do you think they are gonna sock for property taxes, to level the payroll for the politicians to enjoy what they do?
They're gonna sock it to those remaining people who have homes that are paid off, but blow up their property taxes.
What will you do then? Rent out? You can't rent and make enough money to call it an investmemt and make money. Half that money will go to property taxes.
I have a plan in case things go through the floor this year: Get an RV and travel. Park it where I know I don't have to pay any property taxes..and enjoy life and allow the politicians to scratch their heads.
If they can't fix an easy road to the casinos right now, by the time they do...they will sink. I ain't paying for this backward state.
I'll join the people I talk to that balked at being taxed on a house paid for, got jacked up for the vacant ones...I think I deserve to trade the house in for an RV. Might cost money driving one, but at least it isn't going toward politicians who depend on me.
I'll let them fend for themselves. That is, if what they said on the news...100 million nation-wide will go into foreclosure this year. And I believe it.
Unfortunately, I could not recall which channel I watched yesterday, but I am not paying for politicians to fly to Coppenhagen with family, the senate and staff and have a great time. I refuse to pay for corruption locally, state wide, or nationally. Time for them to feel the pain.

If it really comes true that all those houses become vacant, I will not stay.
Look at Illinois. Look at what Quinn, running for Blago' seat permanently...he wants a 50% income tax increase. So, in a state where hardly one has a job, who has to pay to make up for the ones who find it better to live off of the gov't? The ones that work. Is that fair? People would be stupid to turn over that amount of their paycheck to cover the siphoning of pensions, SS paid in, to only be robbed to work.
They would be better off driving an RV and working cash jobs. How stupid these politicians are. I want the old USA back, but given the fact we have no term limits, and you have no reason to apply for a job, unless you know the politician...taxpayers are the loosers.
I refuse to put up with this "taxation" without representation anymore. I'll enjoy the rest of my life in an RV. I have a life-long pass at Bass Lake, IN. What more do I need? Screw you politicians. I can also go visit my relatives, park it..still have privacy...go to California..the place I need to be. Screw you politicians.
This Sept., slap me with this if I'm wrong.
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He's not a leader. He lied when he said he would put the negotiations based on health care on C-Span; he lied when he said "Washington will never be the Washington, D.C. as before". Of course, like all politicians, once in office..they forgot what they said 8 times over about being transparent with the health bill.

We as Americans' don't even have a clue what the health bill entails. He promised bi-partisian on that, transparency...he shut the Republicans out, and went behind closed doors. No word to us what the hell is going on. Call that honesty ?

I keep hearing this tripe repeated over and over again by right wingers, so I feel compelled to comment.

Where the hell have you been for the last year? There have been countless public debates over the provisions in the Health Insurance Reform Bill. There have been hundreds of hours of hearings and debate on C-SPAN as the legislation made its way through both the House and then the Senate.

The fact is that the Republicans fought against everything that the reforms are trying to accomplish. Only 1 Republican (in the House) voted for Health Care Insurance reform. One

And now you're whining about the Republicans being "shut out" of the process? Please. Give me a frickin' break!

We know exactly what's going on right now. The House and Senate versions of the bill are significantly different, especially when it comes to the funding mechanism to pay for the bill. These differences need to be sorted out between the supporters of the bill. IMHO, the Republicans don't deserve to have any input whatsoever at this point. Their position is crystal clear... they are against it, period.

Once the House and the Senate Conference Committee members formally meet and work out a final compromise on the differences between the two bills, that will then be publicly debated and voted on in the House and the Senate. It will all be televised on C-SPAN, and those who are interested in the proceedings can watch and learn about any new provisions that come out of the Conference Committee.

The fact that you "know nothing" about "what the health bill entails" speaks volumes about how truly uninformed you really are...

IMHO, if you don't know anything about the bill after all that's happened, then that's your fault.
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Here: Click on these links, then give me your opinion, not based on some stupid poll:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100114/D9D7MDGG0.html
PROMISES, PROMISES: Many Obama pledges unkept
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/01/majority_would.php
Majority Would Vote Against Obama (739 comments - check them out!)



http://finance.yahoo.com/news/December-retail-sales-drop-03-apf-3350007934.html?x=0&.v=9
December retail sales drop 0.3 percent


Retail sales drop 0.3 percent in December as sales for all of 2009 plunge by record amount



(Monday they reported on news channels how December retails did SO WELL! Beyond EXPECTATIONS! Three days later, we get the truth!)

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100114/D9D7AN7O0.html
Record year for foreclosures as unemployment rises

MIAMI (AP) - A record 2.8 million households were threatened with foreclosure last year, and that number is expected to rise this year as more unemployed and cash-strapped homeowners fall behind on their mortgages.
The number of households that received a foreclosure-related notice rose 21 percent from 2008, RealtyTrac Inc. reported Thursday. One in 45 homes were sent a filing, which includes default notices, scheduled foreclosure auctions and bank repossessions.
In December, more than 349,000 households, or one in 366 homes, were hit with a foreclosure-related notice. That represents a 14 percent spike from November and a 15 percent jump from December 2008.
The foreclosure crisis isn't letting up. Between 3 and 3.5 million homes are expected to enter some phase of foreclosure this year, said Rick Sharga, senior vice president of Irvine, Calif.-based RealtyTrac, which began tracking the data five years ago.

Since April 2009, there have been nine instances where new program requirements were released, and more than 90 clarifications for new or revised forms, reporting changes and policies. The changes forced mortgage companies to implement new procedures and retrain employees, taking away time that could be spent helping borrowers.
The same three states that led the nation in foreclosure rate in December also posted the highest rates for the entire year: Nevada, Arizona and Florida. More than 10 percent of Nevada housing units received at least one foreclosure filing in 2009, with Florida and Arizona following with about 6 percent each.
The other states ranked in the top 10 for the year were California, Utah, Idaho, Georgia, Michigan, Illinois, and Colorado.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/New-jobless-claims-rise-more-apf-1551827594.html?x=0&.v=6

Retail sales fall unexpectedly; jobless claims up


Retail sales drop 0.3 pct in December, plunge for year; new jobless claims rise





http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100114/D9D7FIMG0.html


Now He Wants to TAX Banks!
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/president-barack-obama-helda-press-conference-months/story?id=9549859






Obama Gives Speeches, Interviews But Few Press Conferences



Media Complain, But White House Insists Obama is Accessible



http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/01/joe-biden-update.html
Joe Biden update: He meets on transparency today. But the meeting is closed

I could go on and on....the headlines speak for themselves. So does Rove...he held up a whiteboard today on tv...transparency, accountability and some other crap Obama pledged during his campaign that he violated. As usual, another crap of a politician.

Just another guy with bling.




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Computer is out of whack. Sorry.
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UrRight wrote:


Obama Gives Speeches, Interviews But Few Press Conferences



Media Complain, But White House Insists Obama is Accessible


Obama had five news conferences at the White House last year, one more than President George W. Bush had in his first year in office.
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UrRight wrote:

I base my opinion on real time news, reading, watching every station, visiting every website. I can tell you this much, without reciting any poll, the American people feel decieved that voted for him.

Why?
Transparency, Honesty, Bi-Partanianship, and Accountability was what he led the voters to believe in and show me where he ever once did any of those things.

Are you that clueless? Obama has reached out to Republicans from the day he took office only to get bitten by them time and time again. He has Republicans in his cabinet for example. The failure of bipartisan ship lies solely at the feet of the Repubs.
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Computer is out of whack. Sorry.

Yeah,among other things Rolling Eyes
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UrRight wrote:
http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/content/home/daily/site_011310/content/01125108.guest.html

The always disgusting Limbecile found a new level to sink to......

Limbaugh stands by his Haiti remarks, tells critical caller she’s a ‘bigot’ with ‘tampons in her ears.’

Quote :
Yesterday, hate radio host Rush Limbaugh controversially said that President Obama was going to try to use the devastating Haitian earthquake to boost his credibility with the “light-skinned and dark-skinned black community” in the United States. He also argued against government aid for the nation. Today, a woman named “April” from Paducah, KY called into Limbaugh’s show and asked where he got the “cojones” to make such statements. Limbaugh insisted that he never meant to discourage private donations to Haiti, but stood by his remarks that Obama will try to exploit the disaster for political gain:
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UrRight wrote:
Here: Click on these links, then give me your opinion, not based on some stupid poll:
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100114/D9D7MDGG0.html

This is an Op-Ed piece. Opinion pieces and editorials are interesting, but they are not genuine news articles. Most of the "facts" in an opinion piece are spun by the writer, sometimes to such an extent that they no longer reflect reality.

UrRight wrote:

PROMISES, PROMISES: Many Obama pledges unkept
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/01/majority_would.php
Majority Would Vote Against Obama (739 comments - check them out!)

Here we have a blogger who is citing a poll to spin his comments around. It's really ironic that you would put up this link. Personally, I was interested in the poll he cited, so I looked for it. Thought that this was interesting....

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Fourth-AllstateNational-prnews-2318648914.html?x=0&.v=1

Quote :
President Obama's job approval rating has dipped to its lowest position in the series, to 47 percent, but 52 percent believe the country is beginning to move in the right direction because of his policies. Opinion on the administration's economic policies is divided, with Americans split over whether they have been ineffective while raising deficits (46 percent) or have prevented an even worse crisis and set the stage for recovery (43 percent).

The "comments" on the bloggers take on the poll merely reflect the opinions of people who follow the blogger, and are anecdotal in nature. In short, it proves nothing.

UrRight wrote:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/December-retail-sales-drop-03-apf-3350007934.html?x=0&.v=9
December retail sales drop 0.3 percent
(Monday they reported on news channels how December retails did SO WELL! Beyond EXPECTATIONS! Three days later, we get the truth!)

Yeah, well at least this is a valid news story. The news stories prior to the official release of the numbers were based upon anecdotal evidence provided by retailers. If anything, it validates my point about the folly of trusting anecdotal evidence. The official numbers are what count. I'm not surprised that there was a decline. It's going to take some time to see some improvement in our economy, especially in retail sales.

UrRight wrote:

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100114/D9D7AN7O0.html
Record year for foreclosures as unemployment rises

Wow. Foreclosures are rising as unemployment rises. Nothing surprising here, either.

UrRight wrote:

Now He Wants to TAX Banks!

I'm all for this idea. The banks caused many of the problems that sent our economy reeling. From the article...

Quote :
The president planned to propose Thursday a levy of 15 basis points, or 0.15 percent, on the liabilities of large financial institutions to make sure every dollar spent from the $700 billion Troubled Asset Relief Program to rescue Wall Street firms, auto companies and mortgage holders is either repaid or paid for. Congress would have to approve the tax.

Who in their right mind would oppose attempting to get some more of the TARP money back? I doubt that this will pass in Congress, in any case. I'm sure that the GOP will try to filibuster any such plan in the Senate.

UrRight wrote:

Obama Gives Speeches, Interviews But Few Press Conferences
Media Complain, But White House Insists Obama is Accessible

Artie already answered this question. In addition, I find it laughable in light of the fact that the media was complaining that the President was appearing on television way too often only a few months ago.

UrRight wrote:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/01/joe-biden-update.html
Joe Biden update: He meets on transparency today. But the meeting is closed

I could go on and on....the headlines speak for themselves. So does Rove...he held up a whiteboard today on tv...transparency, accountability and some other crap Obama pledged during his campaign that he violated. As usual, another crap of a politician.

Sorry, but it's incorrect to say that "headlines speak for themselves." This last citation is a perfect example of why you shouldn't trust headlines or bloggers for your information. You need to follow the links.

From the blog post that you cited...

White House gets 'A' for openness

Quote :
Under fire for backing away from a campaign promise to open up health care negotiations to C-SPAN cameras, the White House on Monday highlighted a report from a coalition of watchdog groups awarding the Obama administration an “A” for its openness.

The report — released by the nonprofit groups Common Cause, Democracy 21, the League of Women Voters and U.S. PIRG — gave the administration high marks across the board for its various initiatives to increase transparency and reduce the power of lobbyists, both of which were key elements in candidate Barack Obama’s campaign pledge to change the way Washington works.

The report praised the administration for rules limiting lobbyists from seeking stimulus funds and for putting the White House visitor logs and other documents online, among other reforms.


IMHO, you depend way too much on opinions for your news sources. The danger in relying on other people's opinions is that it colors the way that you view the news. You will tend to read only what you agree with, and that's a really myopic way to view the world.


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Computer is out of whack. Sorry.
Yes, I know. Please stop using HTML tables if you don't know how to set them up. I have had to edit three of your posts where you were incorrectly using HTML tables, and it caused all posts after yours to be displayed improperly. Thank you in advance.

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Guide me...Geek Squad and Wowway have been out. For some reason, when I type, rather, click on something, it shows translations to Greek, etc. to English. All because I was using Bleep's thing the other day. How do you fix this? Thanks for intervening, but when you have a GEEK SQUAD out and the Wowway guys out, it turns out worse.

As far as the economy, guys...report back to me in Sept. and tell me we aren't worse off than even now.

Obama went behind closed doors with the Health thing, promising to expose THAT on CNN, locked out the Republicans. I don't favor either party, but if that Republican Brown gets OUR seat (not Kennedy's) he's shaking in his boots...the POTUS is..cuz that guy ain't taking no crap, and he said so.
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How do you get rid of the HTML? Also, some letters are always missing, and have to go back to insert them. The kid connected the other computer to the tv...does that have anything to do with it?

The trouble started when I went to the toll bar, and said to translate it to greek, or whatever. Then when I go back saying English only, it shows up in all different langauages. I ignore it.
Tried to correct it, only made it worse. What the hell is html?


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Rasmussen's (dishonest) game
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Yesterday the nation had several hot races, including the House special election in PA-12, primaries in both parties in Kentucky and Arkansas, and the Democratic Senate primary in Pennsylvania.

And somehow, Rasmussen was nowhere to be found. Yet this past week, Rasmussen found time to poll Colorado, California, and those burning Idaho senate and governor races. He even polled the general election in Arkansas, ignoring the imminent primaries -- the better to show Arkansas Republican primary voters who their strongest candidate was.

You see, the thing about Rasmussen is that he cares only about setting the narrative that Democrats are doomed. And it's hard to build those narratives if you screw up polling actual elections.
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OOOOH ...looks like the tea party thing is working...get rid of the career politicians.
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OOOOH ...looks like the tea party thing is working...get rid of the career politicians.
If you're referring to Arlen Spector,the reason he lost was because he was arrogant and stupid. it had nothing to do with the tea party. He admitted in front of a camera that he switched parties to keep his job.
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Another good article as to why Rasmussen can't be trusted.....
The Rasmussen Problem
Rasmussen has Obama's approval index — strong disapproval subtracted from strong approval — at -20, its lowest point to date. Obama's overall approval/disapproval split stands 42/56, dragged down by poor grades on the economy and the handling of the BP oil spill.

Are Obama's approval ratings falling? Well, yes, according to Rasmussen. No, according to everybody else:
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Another storybook ending for Rasmussen. All year long,his polling looking as if it was leading the Planet Wingnuttia crowd to the promised land of an Obama defeat,reality finally sets in...... Sad Sad
Top Pollster Scott Rasmussen: ‘I Have No Idea Who’s Going To Win’
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Scott Rasmussen, the founder and president of Rasmussen Reports, one of the biggest polling firms in the country, appeared on Fox News today to admit despite all the polling, he’s unable to make a clear determination of who’s going to win tonight. Megyn Kelly asked Rasmussen who he thinks will be the next president of the United States by tomorrow. Rasmussen answered, “I have no idea who’s going to win tonight.”
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