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PostSubject: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/25/2009, 2:05 pm

(Oh it's Al Gore, not Cheney in case you're wondering which Mr. X-VP it is...)[url=http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31584[/url]

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1. You are a partner in the venture capital firm of Kleiner-Perkins and a co-founder of the United Kingdom-based investment firm of Generation Investment Management, each of which stands to gain financially from greenhouse gas regulation. Please describe any other financial interests that you have in any other businesses that stand to profit from greenhouse gas regulation.

2. In October 2008, the New York Times Magazine featured a cover story on how Kleiner Perkins had invested $1 billion in 40 companies that would profit from new environmental and energy laws and regulations. What will be your share of any profits from these ventures?

3. How much of your own money have you contributed to Kleiner-Perkins, Generation Investment Management and other businesses that stand to profit from greenhouse gas regulation? If you have not contributed significant amounts of your own capital to these businesses, what, then, is your role in them? Are you a lobbyist? Are you the face of their public relations efforts? Is your job to run around scaring politicians and the public into enacting greenhouse gas regulation?

4. Is Kleiner-Perkins’ business plan to have you press for legislation and regulation favorable to its clients in order to make them more attractive and available for sale to the public, at which time Kleiner-Perkins would cash out, leaving the public invested in not-ready-for-prime-time companies that have dubious financial prospects and that are dependent on taxpayer subsidies?

5. Your co-founder with Generation Investment Management is former Goldman Sachs partner David Blood. Goldman Sachs is lobbying for global warming legislation and is a part owner of the Chicago Climate Exchange, where carbon credits from cap-and-trade legislation would be traded. Do you or Generation Investment Management stand to benefit in anyway from these relationships?

6. Generation Investment Management’s web site says the firm provides investment advice to clients. Who are Generation Investment Management’s clients and how do they stand to profit from upcoming environmental and energy legislation and regulation? Will these clients share their profits with you and/or Generation Investment Management?

7. When you left public service in January 2001, your personal net worth was perhaps $2 million. In 2007, your personal net worth was reported to be on the order of $100 million. How much of this fortune is related, directly or indirectly, to your advocacy of legislation to reduce “global warming”?

8. When you testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in January, why did you not disclose to the Committee and to the public your relationships with Kleiner-Perkins and Generation Investment Management? Generation Investment Management’s web site says, “Integrity and honesty are the bedrock of our business. We demand the highest ethical standards in our work and in our personal lives.” In light of this statement, how to you explain your failure to inform the Senate Committee of your financial conflicts of interest?

9. You travel all over the world in jets and limos, own a houseboat, use 20 times more electricity than the average American, and stand to make a fortune that most millionaires would envy. Yet you tell Americans to downsize their lives, such as by limiting their travel, using less heat and air conditioning, and drying their clothes outside on a clothesline. Describe for us, in detail, your personal “carbon footprint.”

10. If you are wrong about humans causing catastrophic global warming, will you give all the money you “earned” from your alarmism back?
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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/25/2009, 5:49 pm

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(Oh it's Al Gore, not Cheney in case you're wondering which Mr. X-VP it is...)[url=http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31584[/url]

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1. You are a partner in the venture capital firm of Kleiner-Perkins and a co-founder of the United Kingdom-based investment firm of Generation Investment Management, each of which stands to gain financially from greenhouse gas regulation. Please describe any other financial interests that you have in any other businesses that stand to profit from greenhouse gas regulation.
Aren't we free to invest our money any way we choose?What gives the author the right to question how a private citizen invests his money?

2. In October 2008, the New York Times Magazine featured a cover story on how Kleiner Perkins had invested $1 billion in 40 companies that would profit from new environmental and energy laws and regulations. What will be your share of any profits from these ventures? Companies invest their money with the expectation of making a profit. I don't see anything nefarious here.

3. How much of your own money have you contributed to Kleiner-Perkins, Generation Investment Management and other businesses that stand to profit from greenhouse gas regulation? If you have not contributed significant amounts of your own capital to these businesses, what, then, is your role in them? Are you a lobbyist? Are you the face of their public relations efforts? Is your job to run around scaring politicians and the public into enacting greenhouse gas regulation?
This is so funny it's ridiculous. One paid lobbyist is implying that Al Gore is doing something sinister by lobbying. Definitely the pot calling the kettle black

4. Is Kleiner-Perkins’ business plan to have you press for legislation and regulation favorable to its clients in order to make them more attractive and available for sale to the public, at which time Kleiner-Perkins would cash out, leaving the public invested in not-ready-for-prime-time companies that have dubious financial prospects and that are dependent on taxpayer subsidies?All major corporations lobby for regulations that are favorable to them, as do groups like senior citizens, teachers,doctors,minorities,unions,etc. That's how our political sysyem works.

5. Your co-founder with Generation Investment Management is former Goldman Sachs partner David Blood. Goldman Sachs is lobbying for global warming legislation and is a part owner of the Chicago Climate Exchange, where carbon credits from cap-and-trade legislation would be traded. Do you or Generation Investment Management stand to benefit in anyway from these relationships?
Cap and Trade is nothing more than a proposal which may never be passed.It's pretty hard to predict the impact of legislation which will be altered if it is passed at all.

6. Generation Investment Management’s web site says the firm provides investment advice to clients. Who are Generation Investment Management’s clients and how do they stand to profit from upcoming environmental and energy legislation and regulation? Will these clients share their profits with you and/or Generation Investment Management? When company invest their money to make a profit,we refer to that as they free markey system. Why don't we ask the oil companies how much they stand to profit if their lobbying efforts against Global Warming solutions are successful?

7. When you left public service in January 2001, your personal net worth was perhaps $2 million. In 2007, your personal net worth was reported to be on the order of $100 million. How much of this fortune is related, directly or indirectly, to your advocacy of legislation to reduce “global warming”?See answer #1

8. When you testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in January, why did you not disclose to the Committee and to the public your relationships with Kleiner-Perkins and Generation Investment Management? Generation Investment Management’s web site says, “Integrity and honesty are the bedrock of our business. We demand the highest ethical standards in our work and in our personal lives.” In light of this statement, how to you explain your failure to inform the Senate Committee of your financial conflicts of interest?

9. You travel all over the world in jets and limos, own a houseboat, use 20 times more electricity than the average American, and stand to make a fortune that most millionaires would envy. Yet you tell Americans to downsize their lives, such as by limiting their travel, using less heat and air conditioning, and drying their clothes outside on a clothesline. Describe for us, in detail, your personal “carbon footprint.”

10. If you are wrong about humans causing catastrophic global warming, will you give all the money you “earned” from your alarmism back?
Did you actually read the questions or did you just cut and paste another attempt by lobbyists for the oil and coal oligarchies to muddy the water about the proven science behind Global Warming? This is from the press release about hiring Al Gore. I think Kleiner should be applauded for making investments in green technology, not demonized by denialists.
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Gore is joining the firm as Kleiner makes a risky move beyond information technology and health-care investing into the fast-growing and increasingly competitive arena of “clean technology.”

According to Doerr, by 2009 more than a third of Kleiner’s latest fund, which was raised in 2006 and totals $600 million, will be invested in technologies that aim to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide. Already Kleiner has invested more than $270 million from various funds in 26 companies that make everything from microbes that scrub old oil wells to electric cars to noncorn ethanol. Twelve of Kleiner’s 22 partners now spend some or all of their time on green investments.
What I find really amusing about this thread is that in other posts,you have attacked Obama over and over again for his horrible Socialist policies and then you cut and paste this piece bashing Al Gore and Steiner-Lerner because they are acting like Capitalists. Too funny!
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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/25/2009, 6:21 pm

como? como?

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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/26/2009, 1:20 pm

Ohhmama wrote:
como? como?

I have to assume you started this thread because you wanted to discuss this bit of lobbying by the fossil fuel oligarchy. I took the time to rebut their position. Do you have any opinion of your own that you care to share with us?
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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/26/2009, 5:36 pm

sparks wrote:
Ohhmama wrote:
como? como?

I have to assume you started this thread because you wanted to discuss this bit of lobbying by the fossil fuel oligarchy. I took the time to rebut their position. Do you have any opinion of your own that you care to share with us?
I can't honestly decide if the "lefties" on this board are stupid for requesting that EVERYTHING be spelled out for them, so they can pick it apart, or that the "righties" are stupid for doing it.

P.S. I'll bet I know where this post will end up.
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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/27/2009, 1:23 am

It seems to me AlGore is a one trick pony anymore. The planet is changing, the planet is changing!!

To that I say so what? Even at the worst, most extreme claims of Gore's global warming theology it sounds to me what it really means is that it's not so much global warming but global weather pattern shifting going on.

Gee it's a good thing these guys weren't around during the ice age! :rolfcry:
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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/27/2009, 9:24 am

Mirage wrote:
It seems to me AlGore is a one trick pony anymore. The planet is changing, the planet is changing!!

To that I say so what? Even at the worst, most extreme claims of Gore's global warming theology it sounds to me what it really means is that it's not so much global warming but global weather pattern shifting going on.

Gee it's a good thing these guys weren't around during the ice age!
Views like yours are exactly why the Republicans are starting to be known as the party that hates their grandchildren. At it's worst, the impact of doing nothing is nothing short of catastrophic. Mirage, have you ever considered taking the time to actually learn the facts about Global Warming instead of stating opinions based on distortions and outright lies distributed by lobbyists for the fossil fuel oligarchies? How about a link to show us how you arrive at your contentions? Here are predictions based on science.
http://climateprogress.org/2009/03/22/an-introduction-to-global-warming-impacts-hell-and-high-water/
By century’s end, extreme temperatures of up to 122°F would threaten most of the central, southern, and western U.S. Even worse, Houston and Washington, DC could experience temperatures exceeding 98°F for some 60 days a year. Much of Arizona would be subjected to temperatures of 105°F or more for 98 days out of the year–14 full weeks.
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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   4/27/2009, 12:40 pm

sparks wrote:
Mirage, have you ever considered taking the time to actually learn the facts about Global Warming...

I'm guessing not. This is the guy who thinks evolution and 9/11 are all government conspiracies, with a little satellite mind control to boot, remember? You simply cannot come to such conclusions by "learning facts". AGW "skeptics", however, already know facts have little to do with their skepticism:

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Industry Ignored Its Scientists on Climate

For more than a decade the Global Climate Coalition, a group representing industries with profits tied to fossil fuels, led an aggressive lobbying and public relations campaign against the idea that emissions of heat-trapping gases could lead to global warming.

“The role of greenhouse gases in climate change is not well understood,” the coalition said in a scientific “backgrounder” provided to lawmakers and journalists through the early 1990s, adding that “scientists differ” on the issue.

But a document filed in a federal lawsuit demonstrates that even as the coalition worked to sway opinion, its own scientific and technical experts were advising that the science backing the role of greenhouse gases in global warming could not be refuted.

“The scientific basis for the Greenhouse Effect and the potential impact of human emissions of greenhouse gases such as CO2 on climate is well established and cannot be denied,” the experts wrote in an internal report compiled for the coalition in 1995.

Oh noes!! The Conspiracy got to 'em! Al Gore musta ate their babies!! :headbang:
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PostSubject: Re: Great questions Mr. X-VP   5/14/2009, 7:04 am

sparks wrote:
Ohhmama wrote:
(Oh it's Al Gore, not Cheney in case you're wondering which Mr. X-VP it is...)[url=http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=31584[/url]

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1. You are a partner in the venture capital firm of Kleiner-Perkins and a co-founder of the United Kingdom-based investment firm of Generation Investment Management, each of which stands to gain financially from greenhouse gas regulation. Please describe any other financial interests that you have in any other businesses that stand to profit from greenhouse gas regulation.
Aren't we free to invest our money any way we choose?What gives the author the right to question how a private citizen invests his money?

2. In October 2008, the New York Times Magazine featured a cover story on how Kleiner Perkins had invested $1 billion in 40 companies that would profit from new environmental and energy laws and regulations. What will be your share of any profits from these ventures? Companies invest their money with the expectation of making a profit. I don't see anything nefarious here.

3. How much of your own money have you contributed to Kleiner-Perkins, Generation Investment Management and other businesses that stand to profit from greenhouse gas regulation? If you have not contributed significant amounts of your own capital to these businesses, what, then, is your role in them? Are you a lobbyist? Are you the face of their public relations efforts? Is your job to run around scaring politicians and the public into enacting greenhouse gas regulation?
This is so funny it's ridiculous. One paid lobbyist is implying that Al Gore is doing something sinister by lobbying. Definitely the pot calling the kettle black

4. Is Kleiner-Perkins’ business plan to have you press for legislation and regulation favorable to its clients in order to make them more attractive and available for sale to the public, at which time Kleiner-Perkins would cash out, leaving the public invested in not-ready-for-prime-time companies that have dubious financial prospects and that are dependent on taxpayer subsidies?All major corporations lobby for regulations that are favorable to them, as do groups like senior citizens, teachers,doctors,minorities,unions,etc. That's how our political sysyem works.

5. Your co-founder with Generation Investment Management is former Goldman Sachs partner David Blood. Goldman Sachs is lobbying for global warming legislation and is a part owner of the Chicago Climate Exchange, where carbon credits from cap-and-trade legislation would be traded. Do you or Generation Investment Management stand to benefit in anyway from these relationships?
Cap and Trade is nothing more than a proposal which may never be passed.It's pretty hard to predict the impact of legislation which will be altered if it is passed at all.

6. Generation Investment Management’s web site says the firm provides investment advice to clients. Who are Generation Investment Management’s clients and how do they stand to profit from upcoming environmental and energy legislation and regulation? Will these clients share their profits with you and/or Generation Investment Management? When company invest their money to make a profit,we refer to that as they free markey system. Why don't we ask the oil companies how much they stand to profit if their lobbying efforts against Global Warming solutions are successful?

7. When you left public service in January 2001, your personal net worth was perhaps $2 million. In 2007, your personal net worth was reported to be on the order of $100 million. How much of this fortune is related, directly or indirectly, to your advocacy of legislation to reduce “global warming”?See answer #1

8. When you testified before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in January, why did you not disclose to the Committee and to the public your relationships with Kleiner-Perkins and Generation Investment Management? Generation Investment Management’s web site says, “Integrity and honesty are the bedrock of our business. We demand the highest ethical standards in our work and in our personal lives.” In light of this statement, how to you explain your failure to inform the Senate Committee of your financial conflicts of interest?

9. You travel all over the world in jets and limos, own a houseboat, use 20 times more electricity than the average American, and stand to make a fortune that most millionaires would envy. Yet you tell Americans to downsize their lives, such as by limiting their travel, using less heat and air conditioning, and drying their clothes outside on a clothesline. Describe for us, in detail, your personal “carbon footprint.”

10. If you are wrong about humans causing catastrophic global warming, will you give all the money you “earned” from your alarmism back?
Did you actually read the questions or did you just cut and paste another attempt by lobbyists for the oil and coal oligarchies to muddy the water about the proven science behind Global Warming? This is from the press release about hiring Al Gore. I think Kleiner should be applauded for making investments in green technology, not demonized by denialists.
Quote :
Gore is joining the firm as Kleiner makes a risky move beyond information technology and health-care investing into the fast-growing and increasingly competitive arena of “clean technology.”

According to Doerr, by 2009 more than a third of Kleiner’s latest fund, which was raised in 2006 and totals $600 million, will be invested in technologies that aim to reduce emissions of carbon dioxide. Already Kleiner has invested more than $270 million from various funds in 26 companies that make everything from microbes that scrub old oil wells to electric cars to noncorn ethanol. Twelve of Kleiner’s 22 partners now spend some or all of their time on green investments.
What I find really amusing about this thread is that in other posts,you have attacked Obama over and over again for his horrible Socialist policies and then you cut and paste this piece bashing Al Gore and Steiner-Lerner because they are acting like Capitalists. Too funny!
Mama sure ran away from this thread that she started pretty quickly!
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