Right Wing Tea Parties

Ohhmama wrote:

My post to Tiger was in response to reading the above post by Artie. I think there are certain leftists (not just Artie) that love to throw out words like diversity, freedoms, tolerance only when it applies to their beliefs, and I for one think that those are the people who are the least tolerant of others opinions.

I seriously think you're misunderstanding what is meant by tolerance. When it comes to mere opinions (like those expressed at these teabaggings), tolerance doesn't mean you have to agree with other opinions, and it certainly shouldn't silence your opposition; tolerance simply means allowing allowing other opinions to exists. Tolerance doesn't mean we can rob individuals of their rights and freedoms because of those opinions, which is why no one said or suggested the teabaggers shouldn't have their right to protest (in stark contrast to what the media was saying to liberals/Democrats just a few years ago). You're free to have your protests and just as I'm free to believe and say that I think the reasons for them were really, really silly. That's it.

Heretic wrote:

Ohhmama wrote:

My post to Tiger was in response to reading the above post by Artie. I think there are certain leftists (not just Artie) that love to throw out words like diversity, freedoms, tolerance only when it applies to their beliefs, and I for one think that those are the people who are the least tolerant of others opinions.

I seriously think you're misunderstanding what is meant by tolerance. When it comes to mere opinions (like those expressed at these teabaggings), tolerance doesn't mean you have to agree with other opinions, and it certainly shouldn't silence your opposition; tolerance simply means allowing allowing other opinions to exists. Tolerance doesn't mean we can rob individuals of their rights and freedoms because of those opinions, which is why no one said or suggested the teabaggers shouldn't have their right to protest (in stark contrast to what the media was saying to liberals/Democrats just a few years ago). You're free to have your protests and just as I'm free to believe and say that I think the reasons for them were really, really silly. That's it.

No, I understand what tolerance means. And I agree, you don't have to agree with the protestors, but I gave specific examples to tiger on what I was talking about. I don't expect you to get it- it was meant for her, and I'm sure she got it.

Oh... some seekrit kode. My bad.

Heretic wrote:

Oh... some seekrit kode. My bad.

LOL- smart and witty !

Ohhmama wrote:

Heretic wrote:

Oh... some seekrit kode. My bad.

LOL- smart and witty !

Mama, you are wise and quite witty !

Tiger1 wrote:

Ohhmama wrote:

Heretic wrote:

Oh... some seekrit kode. My bad.

LOL- smart and witty !

Mama, you are wise and quite witty !

Thanks! You're quite faboo yourself!

AWW, GEE, SHUCKS !!! Thanks Mama !!!

During the "Depression," did people not do without, or were they required to recyle to help the "oppressed"? I doubt they had the means to help out, but did, anyway. Hobos stopped by at houses in rural counties and families helped them out, giving whatever they had, plus a place to sleep.

Today we are told to recyle, to give over and over when there is nothing really left to give.

I want to know one thing..if our family, our parents lived out the "cycle" of the "Depression," why can't we?

All I can think of is we as Amerians are obsessed about encountering hard times. What we forget is that, there are others worse off than we are. We need to ban together and help each other.

This time it means really helping each other, and forgetting how the rest of the world is living. We need to take care of ourselves first, in order to take care of others.

Forget politics. There is no such thing as Democrats or Republicans. There are or is a party for those who think clearly about who they trust to carry out their beliefs, and there is no longer a Republican or Democrate, two party system.

We've witnessed too many crossing over just for a vote. It's time to say, we need to vote for liberal, grass-root incumbents. It's for our own good.

I have yet to see a Republican or Democrate that reflects the majority of what the taxpayers believe. We need to get rid of the thousands of layers of state government in every state and until then, tell them "HELL NO" to tarps, stimulas payments, etc.

Until they trim their 16,000 plus political layers of hacks, come back then, and check in with us. I'm sick of these political hacks and the multi-layers of unnecessari layers of government. Trim that first, then get back to us.

Trimming the budget starts with trimming the layers of government. I've read it in many papers, news outlets. Until government agrees to eliminate unnecessary layers of patronage...and realize they can no longer squeeze blood from a turnip... someday, just someday...it will dry up.

I'm tired...guess I posted in the wrong left or right wing section.

Where's the cental station? Or is there one? Going to bed. LOOOOONG day, short fuse. Love ya guys..bye!

President Obama mocks Fox’s teabagging
Posted by Jed Lewison • Apr 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM Pacific

When you’ve had a succesful first 100 days, you’re entitled to take a shot or two at the fools at Fox ‘News’ — and President Obama took full advantage. From his town hall in Missouri earlier today:

Another wingnut exposed....

Tea party leader/insane clown also major tax fraud, apparently

Well no wonder he doesn’t like taxes very much. According to documents obtained by Teablogging by running a goddamned simple Nexis search on the internets, national Tea Party organizer, Top Conservatives on Twitter cofounder and TCOTReport.com publisher Michael P. Leahy has, over the past 16 years, amassed nearly $150,000 in state and federal tax liens, small claims court judgments and civil suits.
http://teablogging.net/2009/05/13/tea-party-leaderinsane-clown-also-major-tax-fraud-apparently/

Keith Olbermann has some choice words about 1 minute into this..

Just a reminder that the wackos will be back to trying to frighten everyone again......

White Supremacists and Anti-Semites Plan to Recruit at July 4 Tea Parties
Posted: May 18, 2009

The Tea Party phenomenon, which began with anti-tax rallies staged across the country on April 15, 2009, will continue as activists in almost every state are planning similar events on July 4. Notably, white supremacists are again planning to participate. As they have done with other political and social issues, for example, promoting the Ron Paul campaign and using the immigration debate, white supremacists and anti-Semites are planning to exploit Tea Parties to disseminate their hateful views and recruit a larger following.
http://www.adl.org/main_Extremism/White_Supremacists_July_4_Tea_Parties.htm

Even though that overall,the latest round of 'tea parties" were a miserable failure,there was at least one bright spot....

GOP Senator booed at tea party protest



Fixed News didn't even bother to cover them :rolfcry:

Despite Fox hype, turnout shrivels at July 4 teabag parties
Posted Jul 6, 2009, 2:04 AM PT by Jed Lewison

After the April 15 teabag parties, Fox predicted the teabag movement would swell, but as round two of the teabag parties shows, the movement is actually shriveling.



http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001900/

Heretic wrote:

Denialism blog posted their take on the teabaggings, since so many of them were running rampant with ridiculous conspiracy theories and paranoia, highlighting the same video:

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Now, if you guys have been following along for the last few years of denialism blog, you know you should immediately be suspicious of people alleging conspiracy theories. This one is a doozy. The administration as a culmination of a 5 decade communist plot to take over the country? This movement is disturbing, and as radical and unhinged as the 9/11 truthers. I would emphasize as always, no political ideology is safe from this paranoid fringe, and this is a great example of how ideology is the universal threat to rational thinking.

I also can't help but think this teabagging movement represents a more mainstream identity of growing right-wing hate in this country. With new reports of growth of white supremacist recruiting, recruitment of members of the military and the Father Coughlin-esque ranting of Glenn Beck and Limbaugh I'm worried we're seeing the rise of new hate movement. Seeing their signs - blaming Obama for economic woes he's had all of three months to address, Obama's Plan:White Slavery, The American Taxpayers are the Jews for Obama's ovens, Obama is the Anti-Christ, drumming up paranoia about guns, and internment camps, secession from the union for the love of Benji, Obama is a Muslim, let's waterboard Obama - my interpretation of these events isn't that they are legitimately angry at government spending or taxation. I just don't buy it. After all, why get angry now? We've spent hundreds of billions under Bush, and wasted huge amounts in foreign wars and disastrous national policies. The tax increase? 3% on those making more than 250k? I somehow don't see that as taxing our children's future away, or these folks as representative of the wealthy Americans that are targeted by the tax. The people leading this movement may be recruiting a large number of people who share this unbalanced delusion about taxes and "big government" but it's clear there is also an ugly, nationalist, and frankly racist theme behind this new movement.

The leaders of right-wing talk are playing a dangerous game, tapping into a dark, paranoid underbelly of American politics. I've been following Orcinus pretty closely in the last few months and am increasingly disturbed by what I see. While we might want to dismiss the paranoid rantings of pundits like Beck, we should remember that such conspiratorial beliefs aren't meant to convince the masses. They exist to radicalize ideologues, and ideologues are dangerous, whether left-wing or right-wing. Conservatives may be furious that the the FBI and DHS are tracking right wing extremism, but I see this as a rare example of them actually seeing a threat coming, and being ready to do something about it. For those of us old enough to remember Oklahoma City, I don't think we should be dismissive about the terrorist potential of the militant right, especially with Beck and Limbaugh stoking the fires of paranoia.

Such unfounded paranoid rants of fear and conspiracy at the hands of an out of control, evil, socialist, marxist government from the teabaggers are now (and have been) appealing to Twoofers:

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John Patrick Bedell: Did right-wing extremism lead to shooting?

John Patrick Bedell, whom authorities identified as the gunman in the Pentagon shooting on Thursday, appears to have been a right-wing extremist with virulent antigovernment feelings.

If so, that would make the Pentagon shooting the second violent extremist attack on a federal building within the past month. On Feb. 18, Joseph Stack flew a small aircraft into an IRS building in Austin, Texas. Mr. Stack left behind a disjointed screed in which, among other things, he expressed his hatred of the government. (For more on this incident, click here.)

Details of Mr. Bedell’s case are still emerging. But writings by someone with his same name and birth date, posted on the Internet, express ill will toward the government and the armed forces and question whether Washington itself might have been behind the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks.

Teabaggers and Twoofers. You guys look so good together.