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KarenT
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PostSubject: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/16/2011, 8:34 am

Here is a story I've been following all year.
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The worst droughts in decades are wilting wheat fields from China to the US to the UK, overwhelming Russia’s return to grain markets and driving prices to the highest levels since 2008.
Parts of China, the biggest grower, had the least rain in a century, some European regions are the driest in 50 years and almost half the winter-wheat crop in the US, the largest exporter, is rated poor or worse. Inventory is dropping 8.8 per cent, the most in five years, Rabobank International says. Prices will advance 20 per cent to as high as $9.25 a bushel by December 31, a Bloomberg survey of 14 analysts and traders shows.
Wheat as much as doubled in the past year as crops failed, spurring Ukraine and Russia to curb shipments and increasing the US share of global sales by the most since 2004. Russia ending its export ban on July 1 and Ukraine lifting quotas may not be enough as crops wither elsewhere, fuelling gains in food prices which the United Nations says are already near a record.
“In 32 years, I’ve never seen so many problems in so many places,” said Dan Basse, the president of AgResource Co., a farm researcher in Chicago. “We’re concerned about the world story now,” said Basse, who has been studying agricultural markets since 1979 and expects prices as high as $10 this year.
It's interesting that the media is giving so little coverage to this issue. I did hear a good piece on NPR about ranchers in Texas who have to sell their entire herds because they can't get water to them. However, I've haven't heard anyone saying that this is the start of things to come as the impact of AGW is felt. It's a shame that corporate America censors our news to help their bottom line.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/16/2011, 9:17 am

According to some of our farmer friends, they can have some of our rain!
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/16/2011, 11:00 am

KarenT wrote:
According to some of our farmer friends, they can have some of our rain!

Rain that floods my mom and dad's private lake in Michigan..farmers know the cycles. The rain that extends until June, every year. The lake that never warms up until July.

The stupid snow we get every year. Ship the Chicago area snow to the ice caps that are supposedly melting. Climate change, according to my 85 year old mother never changed. It has cycles.

Tey call it the 7,100 yr. cycle up in Michigan. One year we had to put the piers in haf way out or, double the length. Lot of years when it rose above level, sand had to be replaced. The brick wall between the front of the yard and between the beach had to be realigned and re-cemented only once, two years ago.

There are countries like China who contribute more pollution than many countries combined. You can only change the things you can change. You can't control China, for starter. They own us.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/16/2011, 12:32 pm

http://www.kcbd.com/story/14994318/drought-wildfires-lead-to-usda-natural-disaster-declaration
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In all, 213 counties in Texas have lost at least 30 percent of their crops or pasture due to the drought and wildfires, according to the USDA.By declaring a natural disaster, farmers and ranchers will be able to qualify for emergency loans at lower interest rates. Every county in the South Plains is eligible.Tuesday we talked to South Plains farmers about the declaration."This is a disaster," Scott Harmon continued. "This is a train wreck."Harmon's family has been farming land just south of Idalou since the 1920's."We've never seen anything like this before," Harmon told us. "People are scared, they don't know what to do and what's going to happen to them next."On Monday, Harmon declared 3,400 acres of dry land cotton a total loss. Now he's considering a gamble with mother nature on his irrigated crop.
This will be the year that the discussion about AGW changes from whether it is happening to what we can do to mitigate it's effects and slow it down.Although, I'm sure some of the Tea Party losers will try to blame Obama for the drought!
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/20/2011, 9:17 am

It's pretty bad, affecting 14 states here in the US, and will probably impact food prices even more.

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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/20/2011, 11:47 am

Add in however many (hundreds of) thousands of acres flooded to keep the Mississippi from spilling over its banks.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/20/2011, 3:59 pm

[quote="Heretic"]It's pretty bad, affecting 14 states here in the US, and will probably impact food prices even more.

The produce at local farmers market isn't even close to what it normally is at this time. Sweet corn is just now coming to market and the quality would best be described as anemic. Beans were late and tomatoes will be too.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/20/2011, 7:22 pm

Heretic wrote:
It's pretty bad, affecting 14 states here in the US, and will probably impact food prices even more.

2011 Drought Drmon
Great links,Heretic.Have you considered the possibility that the drought will have an upside? As ranchers in Texas send entire herds to slaughter because the pastures that feed them are drought stricken, there will be lower levels of methane warming our atmosphere. Since we seem unwilling to make changes to lower greenhouse gases on our own, it looks like climate change will make the choices for us.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/21/2011, 8:47 am

Sparks, you sound like a vegetarian!
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/21/2011, 11:53 am

I'm glad it's dry because my lawn doesn't grow as fast and I can get a break from mowing.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 7:11 am

http://www.npr.org/2011/07/23/138618976/massive-heat-wave-could-cause-corn-prices-to-pop
The heat wave we are experiencing in the midwest is estimated to increase corn prices 20%-30% or higher. We are going to start paying higher prices at the grocery stores as the impact of AGW effects our industrial crop production.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 7:20 am

sparks wrote:
We are going to start paying higher prices at the grocery stores as the impact of AGW effects our industrial crop production.
We already are. Beef prices alone have gone up 20-25 % in the last year.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 9:34 am

Add in the fact that they are taking corn away from the food supply to make ethanol, and you have another reason prices are going up so much.

It rained last night; suddenly, my grass needs mowing already!
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 11:18 am

KarenT wrote:

It rained last night; suddenly, my grass needs mowing already!
The green beans we're nice and plump today at Scheeringa Farmstand. Corn? Not so much Smile
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 12:05 pm

KarenT wrote:
Add in the fact that they are taking corn away from the food supply to make ethanol, and you have another reason prices are going up so much.

Exactly:

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Demand shocks help drive 2011 commodity, food price increases

A new report from Farm Foundation, NFP finds that while some of the same factors that drove commodity and food price increases in 2008 are at work today, new and very different factors have also emerged. The report, What’s Driving Food Prices in 2011?, cites the role of two persistent demand shocks—corn for biofuels production and soybeans for China—in the mix of factors pushing commodity price increases in recent months. Other factors include weather-related production shortfalls, changes in cropping patterns and a weak and volatile U.S. dollar.

No surprise to anyone familiar with the topic and one of the many reasons I was against ethanol from the very beginning. Evil or Very Mad
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 4:44 pm

Ethanol from sugar cane is a much better idea. Hubby fumes every time the pro-ethanol commercial interrupts his NASCAR.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 9:38 pm

On what exactly do you base that statement?
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 9:59 pm

Robin Banks wrote:
I'm glad it's dry because my lawn doesn't grow as fast and I can get a break from mowing.

I guess some people don't get my "dry" sense of humor.
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PostSubject: Re: 2011 Drought   2011 Drought Empty7/23/2011, 10:09 pm

It uses more energy to make ethanol from corn than you get from the ethanol. Sugar converts more easily and cheaply.
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