Dishonest Cowards

happy jack wrote:

Considering all that has been going on recently, you people are clearly demonstrating that you are incredibly cowardly pussies for refusing to engage.
'Nuff said.
Artie?
edge?
Scorpion?
Heretic?

Engage on what, exactly?  

It's certainly true that a lot has been going on in the world that is worthy of discussion, but you've made it clear that you're mainly interested in "social issues and attitudes."  

Meh!

Scorpion wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

 

And how about the current state of the GOP and the Presidency itself

Kind of a broad question; anything specific you have in mind?
At any rate, the nuts and bolts of politics bore me, in general. If you’ve noticed, the bulk of my posting runs along the lines of social issues and attitudes, not politics.

I don't mind weighing in on "social issues and attitudes," now and then, but I'm primarily interested in politics and policies...

So it's nothing personal, Jack...

Scorpion wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Considering all that has been going on recently, you people are clearly demonstrating that you are incredibly cowardly pussies for refusing to engage.
'Nuff said.
Artie?
edge?
Scorpion?
Heretic?

Engage on what, exactly?  

It's certainly true that a lot has been going on in the world that is worthy of discussion, but you've made it clear that you're mainly interested in "social issues and attitudes."  

Meh!

Scorpion wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Scorpion wrote:

 

And how about the current state of the GOP and the Presidency itself

Kind of a broad question; anything specific you have in mind?
At any rate, the nuts and bolts of politics bore me, in general. If you’ve noticed, the bulk of my posting runs along the lines of social issues and attitudes, not politics.

I don't mind weighing in on "social issues and attitudes," now and then, but I'm primarily interested in politics and policies...

So it's nothing personal, Jack...

OK.
Here's some politics.

https://www.projectveritasaction.com/2020/01/14/expose2020-part-1-bernie-2020-field-organizer-states-fing-cities-will-burn-if-trump-wins-re-election-calls-for-violence-mass-murder-of-opposition-and-reign-of-terr/

#Expose2020 – PART 1: Bernie 2020 Field Organizer States “F***ing Cities Will Burn” if Trump Wins Re-Election; Calls for Violence, Mass Murder of Opposition, and “Reign of Terror”


by Eric S January 14, 2020 in News Feed / News / Top Stories / Press Releases


Kyle Jurek, Iowa Field Organizer, Sanders Campaign: “I’m Ready to Throw Down Now…The Billionaire Class. The F***ing Media, Pundits. Walk into MSNBC Studios, Drag Those M*****F***ers Out by Their Hair and Light Them on Fire in the Streets.
Kyle Jurek Suggests That Liberal Democrats Should be Placed in Gulags or be Put to Death: “Liberals Get the F***ing Wall First.”
Jurek: “Well, I’ll Tell You What in Cuba, What did They do to Reactionaries? You Want to Fight Against the Revolution, You’re Going to Die for it, M*****F***er.”
Jurek Affirms That “Free Speech Has Repercussions…There Are Consequences for Your F***ing Actions…You Should Expect a Violent Reaction. And You Deserve a Violent Reaction.”
Jurek Lambasts Elizabeth Warren, Suggests That Warren Does Not Deserve Support Solely Due to Being a Woman.
Jurek: “Like F**k if We Can Beat Donald Trump, as Long as We Nominated a Woman. Like F***ing Idiot. Like What the F**k? The World is on Fire. This is an Emergency Situation, and You’re Hung Up on Vaginas.”

(Des Moines, IA) A Bernie Sanders Presidential Campaign Field Organizer, Kyle Jurek, was secretly recorded bragging about his extreme left-wing fringe views, calling for violence and death to those who oppose Sanders’ radical policies. Kyle Jurek, who works out of the Sanders campaign Iowa office, has been paid at least $9,775 since starting in his official campaign role. Project Veritas Action Fund’s undercover journalists secretly recorded Jurek’s statements for months; recording footage on multiple occasions where he lashes out against Sanders’ Democratic opposition, President Trump’s supporters, and others. The recordings give insight into the mentality of many Sanders staffers and what they truly believe. In the video, Jurek details his expectations for the 2020 Presidential election and emphatically states that cities will “burn” if President Trump wins re-election.

Kyle Jurek believes that Democrats who oppose Bernie Sanders are also enemies of the socialist revolutionary cause, not just conservatives and Trump supporters. In exchanges with PVA journalists, Jurek unloads:
“If Bernie doesn’t get the nomination or it goes to a second round at the DNC Convention, f*cking Milwaukee will burn. It’ll start in Milwaukee and when police push back on that, then other cities will just f*cking (hand explosion).”
“The cops are gonna be the ones that are getting f*cking beaten in Milwaukee. They’re gonna call up the National Guard for that sh*t. I promise you that.”
“I’m ready to throw down now. I don’t want to wait and have to wait for f*cking DNC…The billionaire class. The f*cking media, pundits. Walk into that MSNBC studios, drag those motherf*ckers out by their hair and light them on fire in the streets.”
“Well, I’ll tell you what in Cuba, what did they do to reactionaries? You want to fight against the revolution, you’re going to die for it, motherf*cker.”

In another conversation, Jurek berates Democratic Presidential Candidate Elizabeth Warren’s supporters who apparently like Warren due to her being a woman, stating:
“Like, yeah, you know, I like Bernie, but I really want a woman to be -, it’s like, wait, so like you’re okay with a woman if she has worse policies. Like just because she’s a woman, because she has a vagina, that’s why you’re going to vote for her? They don’t like it when you say that because it makes them look like f*cking stupid because they are stupid. They’re like, ‘oh yeah, I’m going to go for…because she’s a woman.’ It’s like, okay, like…”
“Like, f*ck if we can beat Donald Trump, as long as we nominated a woman. Like f*cking idiot. Like what the f*ck? Like the world is on fire, this is an emergency situation, and you’re (Warren supporters) hung up on vaginas.

Jurek wholeheartedly supports Bernie Sanders and is upset that Warren supporters equate Sanders to Warren:
“Yeah, like we’re not on the same team guys. Like you know, like I know you guys like to say like, ‘Hey, Warren’s just like Bernie but a woman.’ But guess what? We’re not on the same team.”
Jurek is also disappointed by Sanders’ judgement of character, citing Bernie’s long-time friendship with Elizabeth Warren:
“Bernie’s a bad judge of character, so like he has like, uh, (Jeff) Weaver who is his like, one of his like campaign, like, like senior advisors, uh, is a sh*tty f*cking human. But he likes him. You know, Bernie likes him. Bernie’s, you know, he’s 78 years old, he’s like set in his ways. You know, if that’s one weakness that Bernie has it’s he’s a bad judge of character with some people. Like he loves Elizabeth, like he’s friends with Elizabeth Warren. He’s friends with f*cking (unintelligible) some f*cking, you know. What can you do? Uh, I mean Bernie has started opening up lines of attack against Warren. But he keeps it policy based.”
PVA journalists asked Jurek about his views on Donald Trump’s re-election bid and free speech rights guaranteed by the First Amendment. Here are a few responses from Jurek regarding those subjects:
JOURNALIST: “So if Trump gets re-elected, what—”
KYLE JUREK: “F*cking cities burn.”
KYLE JUREK: “Whatever it takes. And that’s why they’re like “oh, Anti-Fascists are violent” it’s because we’re willing to go above and beyond what the law says is acceptable. Like oh free speech, yeah, they try to be like “oh you’re against free speech” and no, we’re not against free speech, we’re against hate speech. And if your free speech is something that these people shouldn’t exist, then I don’t give a f*ck if it’s free speech or not, you don’t need… free speech has repercussions.”
KYLE JUREK: “Yeah there are consequences to your f*cking actions, right? And if your speech is calling for people to be eliminated on the base of race, gender, religious… like for whatever reason, things that people can’t change, then you should expect a f*ckin’ violent reaction. And you deserve a violent reaction. Because that’s just an unacceptable thing. It’s not acceptable.”
KYLE JUREK: “The only thing that fascists understand is violence. So, the only way you can confront them is with violence.”

Your "let's talk about something important" opener in a discussion labeled "Dishonest Cowards" is Project Veritas?  

You were way more entertaining when you were at least trying.  This is just... sad.

I will say that the pretzel twisting Republicans are so willfully going through in order ignore or defend the President and his actions, and their gleeful dishonesty while doing it, never ceases to amaze me. It's absolutely fascinating.

So let's try again.

Quote :

The White House budget office violated the law when it froze U.S. military aid to Ukraine, the Government Accountability Office concluded in a new report.

President Donald Trump ordered the hold on the critical security assistance in July, a slew of senior White House officials testified to House impeachment investigators late last year. It was a move that coincided with an effort by the president and his allies to pressure Ukraine to investigate Trump’s Democratic rivals.

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The report undercuts an oft-stated defense of Trump’s decision to hold the aid back: that it was a lawful exercise of the president’s authority.

The President had no legal authority to withhold funds appropriated by Congress. He blatantly stole the power of the purse from Congress in direct violation of the Constitution. That it was done so for the benefit of Putin only makes it worse.

Makes it a national security issue, in point of fact. One of many investigations still ongoing.