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PostSubject: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/7/2012, 2:19 am

Politifact: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats

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One of Andrew Sullivan’s readers compiled the data on Politifact’s findings on most of the leading Republican and Democratic leaders and media pundits, as well as President Obama and Mitt Romney, and found that the Republicans are dishonest — especially highly dishonest — significantly more often than Democrats.

Politifact offers six categories for claims made by politicians and pundits: true, mostly true, half true, mostly false, false and pants on fire. By nearly every measure, Republicans are found to be considerably more likely to be distorting the facts with their statements. Among all party leaders rated (Romney, Boehner, Mitch McConnell, Gingrich, Perry and Santorum for Republicans; Obama, Biden, Reid, Pelosi, and Hillary Clinton for the Democrats), the Republicans are more than 4 times more likely to be rated “pants on fire” (and that isn’t even including Michele Bachmann, who averages about one such statement per day). Democrats are higher on all the true-ish categories and lower on all the false-ish categories.

A surprise to absolutely no one who's been interested in the facts.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/7/2012, 10:06 am

All their lies are going to come back to bite them in the debates.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/7/2012, 7:03 pm

I know that this is off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to happy jack?
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/7/2012, 7:08 pm

He may have never found the forum again after the hiccup with the domain name, switched back to the old forumotion url.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/7/2012, 8:32 pm

Scorpion wrote:
I know that this is off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to happy jack?
Don't you remember? I started an "Eye On" topic about him. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/8/2012, 1:58 pm

Via FactCheck.org. You know... those pinko commie America-hatin' socialists...

Our Clinton Nightmare

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Former President Bill Clinton’s stem-winding nomination speech was a fact-checker’s nightmare: lots of effort required to run down his many statistics and factual claims, producing little for us to write about.

Republicans will find plenty of Clinton’s scorching opinions objectionable. But with few exceptions, we found his stats checked out.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/8/2012, 5:01 pm

Speaking of Clinton,did it go right over Rombot's head that Clinton's speech was a point by point lesson on why Barack Obama should be reelected and Romney/Ryan should not. Why he would bring it up is beyond me..

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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/10/2012, 7:52 pm

I guess this example is as good as any to illustrate the unbelievable dishonesty or just plain stupidity among a significant number of the GOP base.
One in six Republicans say Mitt Romney deserves the credit for killing bin Laden
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Public Policy Polling's new Ohio poll asked, among other questions: "Who do you think deserves more credit for the killing of Osama bin Laden: Barack Obama or Mitt Romney?" Now, that's a very odd question, in that you would be hard pressed to come up with a scenario in which Mitt Romney had anything to do with the Osama bin Laden raid at all—much less more to do with it than the actual president that gave the go-ahead. The results by party, though, may be the new craziest thing you've ever seen [PDF]:


Base Democrat Republican Ind/Other
Barack Obama 63% 86% 38% 64%
Mitt Romney 6% 1% 15% 1%
Not sure 31% 13% 47% 36%
Check out the Republican numbers—are these people actively getting dumber now? Almost half as many Republicans are willing to credit Mitt Romney for the bin Laden raid as are willing to credit the president himself, and nearly half of all Republicans just plain can't decide which of those two people was more responsible. That's a bit akin to asking Republicans whether the moon is made of cheese and getting only about a third of them to fess up that no, it probably isn't.

If I had to give a guesstimation on what's going on here (and rest assured, I do), I would have to guess that it's raw spite. Mere misinformation isn't good enough, as the Democratic and independent numbers both show that you don't have to be a rocket scientist to get this one right. It's possible Republican voters are just conspicuously dumber than everybody else (it does tend to explain a lot) but it depressingly seems more likely that Republicans just loathe the Democratic president so much that they're willing to make up their own versions of reality, if that's what it takes to make them feel better. So fine: According to one in six of them, Mitt Freaking Romney is the one who got Osama bin Laden. He killed him with a big ol' laser-guided tax cut. Paul Ryan helped.

One worrisome aspect about this is that it again points to a base that is unhinged from reality. If Obama wins—and he's definitely winning right now, there's no question about it—there's still no sign that Republicans are going to do anything but get even more crazy after the election. A lot more crazy.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/11/2012, 6:51 pm

Artie60438 wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
I know that this is off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to happy jack?
Don't you remember? I started an "Eye On" topic about him. Wink

Yes, Artie - you scared me off.

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PostSubject: Re: Republicans More Dishonest Than Democrats   9/12/2012, 7:23 am

happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
I know that this is off-topic, but does anyone know what happened to happy jack?
Don't you remember? I started an "Eye On" topic about him. Wink

Yes, Artie - you scared me off.
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Thanks to whoever explained to you how to access the board again. Very Happy
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