President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

Wingnut heads explode! Congratulations Mr President!!!

President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

OSLO — President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.

Artie60438 wrote:

Wingnut heads explode! Congratulations Mr President!!!

President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

OSLO — President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his nascent initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and replace unilateral American action with international diplomacy and cooperation.

Just like when he was a State Senator in Illinois...a lot of hot air and nothing to show for it.

Jimmy Carter won in 2002 as ex-president for what the Nobel prize committee said were "his decades of untiring effort to find peaceful solutions to international conflicts, to advance democracy and human rights, and to promote economic and social development...

He has done NOTHING to deserve this award. Unless, of course, you count apologizing for America being America, bow to the Saudi King, kiss muslim booty, diss our troops, impose socialism on all Americans,etc.

As I predicted,wingnut heads have exploded. :rolfcry: Thanks losers!

The whole world is scratching their heads...guess the award has no real meaning anymore.

What did George Bush ever win other than the Flying Shoe Award?

I would have liked to have seen them give him a chance to do something first. I'm proud that an American president won it, but I don't exactly know what he did to get it.

paul87920 wrote:

I would have liked to have seen them give him a chance to do something first. I'm proud that an American president won it, but I don't exactly know what he did to get it.

Paul,He has changed the International tone to one of diplomacy and understanding,not cowboy rhetoric that we heard for the last 8 years. I think their reasons are valid. Here is the full text of the committee's announcement.

Why Obama Won, in the Nobel Committee’s Words

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The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

Obama has as President created a new climate in international politics. Multilateral diplomacy has regained a central position, with emphasis on the role that the United Nations and other international institutions can play. Dialogue and negotiations are preferred as instruments for resolving even the most difficult international conflicts. The vision of a world free from nuclear arms has powerfully stimulated disarmament and arms control negotiations. Thanks to Obama’s initiative, the USA is now playing a more constructive role in meeting the great climatic challenges the world is confronting. Democracy and human rights are to be strengthened.

Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world’s attention and given its people hope for a better future. His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world’s population.

For 108 years, the Norwegian Nobel Committee has sought to stimulate precisely that international policy and those attitudes for which Obama is now the world’s leading spokesman. The Committee endorses Obama’s appeal that “Now is the time for all of us to take our share of responsibility for a global response to global challenges.”

Oslo, October 9, 2009

Seriously what on earth has Obama done to earn the award? Nada.

On the bright side after he finishes his only term as US President I guess he will move over to the UN where someone may actually believe he is a world leader.

Passion wrote:

Seriously what on earth has Obama done to earn the award? Nada.

He's changed the international tone and restored our credibility and respect in the world. He's also sincerely working for change.

Now here's a question for you. Who do you think was more deserving?

Artie60438 wrote:

Passion wrote:

Seriously what on earth has Obama done to earn the award? Nada.

He's changed the international tone and restored our credibility and respect in the world. He's also sincerely working for change.

Now here's a question for you. Who do you think was more deserving?

Jimmy Carter...

Artie60438 wrote:

He's changed the international tone and restored our credibility and respect in the world.

I will give you half of that. Yes from what I can tell the international tone has changed, but it's going to take more time to restore or credibility and respect in the global community.

Artie60438 wrote:

Passion wrote:

Seriously what on earth has Obama done to earn the award? Nada.

He's changed the international tone and restored our credibility and respect in the world. He's also sincerely working for change.

Now here's a question for you. Who do you think was more deserving?

I see no proof for your claim. As for who's more deserving? Practically everybody else on the list who didn't win.

Passion wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

Passion wrote:

Seriously what on earth has Obama done to earn the award? Nada.

He's changed the international tone and restored our credibility and respect in the world. He's also sincerely working for change.

Now here's a question for you. Who do you think was more deserving?

I see no proof for your claim.

How about Russia and France for example. Relations have improved with both.

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As for who's more deserving? Practically everybody else on the list who didn't win.

I knew that question would stop you dead in your tracks.

Obama was in office for only 12 days when he got nominated. What did he do in 12 days to get nominated? NOTHING !!!

Feb 1st is only the deadline for nominations, not the deadline for actions to be considered for the Prize. And I don't think it has to be limited to actions during his term. Since it only takes one qualified member to nominate, I don't think we'll ever know the specifics. Also, unlike the other Prizes, the Peace Prize can be awarded for ongoing efforts, not just completed efforts. They're pretty clear in their reasoning:

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As specific examples of the work that led to the award, the Committee highlighted efforts to promote nuclear nonproliferation, and a "new climate" in international relations fostered by Obama, especially in reaching out to the Muslim world.

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Jagland said he hoped the award would assist Obama's foreign policy efforts. He added: "We have not given the prize for what may happen in the future. We are awarding Obama for what he has done in the past year. And we are hoping this may contribute a little bit for what he is trying to do." Jagland said the committee was influenced by a speech Obama gave about Islam in Cairo in June 2009, as well as the president's efforts to prevent nuclear proliferation and climate change, as well as Obama's support for using established international bodies such as the United Nations to pursue foreign policy goals.

Which seems accurate:

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The whole of my remaining realizable estate shall be dealt with in the following way: the capital, invested in safe securities by my executors, shall constitute a fund, the interest on which shall be annually distributed in the form of prizes to those who, during the preceding year, shall have conferred the greatest benefit on mankind. The said interest shall be divided into five equal parts, which shall be apportioned as follows: one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery or invention within the field of physics; one part to the person who shall have made the most important chemical discovery or improvement; one part to the person who shall have made the most important discovery within the domain of physiology or medicine; one part to the person who shall have produced in the field of literature the most outstanding work in an ideal direction; and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses.

And Obama seemed to understand:

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"Throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement; it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes," Obama said. "And that is why I will accept this award as a call to action — a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the 21st century." He said those common challenges included the goal of eliminating nuclear weapons (which he said might not occur in his lifetime), nuclear proliferation, climate change, tolerance "among people of different faiths and races and religions", peace between and security for Israelis and Palestinians, better social conditions for the world's poor, including "the ability to get an education and make a decent living; the security that you won't have to live in fear of disease or violence without hope for the future". The United States, he said, is "a country that's responsible for ending a war and working in another theater to confront a ruthless adversary that directly threatens the American people and our allies".

So I don't think it's really that confusing. Guess we'll have to wait 50 years when they release the nominations to see if there was anyone more qualified.

Well I can't get mad at Obama for winning the prize. It's not like he decided he was getting the prize and then it happened. I will say that I do feel that the prize has lost some credibility. Then again it's really no different from an Emmy, a Grammy, or an Oscar. Just a prize handed out by elitists to the elite.

I also think the prize has lost a lot of credibility from this selection. But what is equally sad is those here who are trying to justify the Obama selection. The justification just isn't there.

I say almost everybody on the list is more deserving and Artie calls it being stumped??

I could have given specifics, such as the Chinese dissident guy to cite 1, but the point is moot. It is now clear that the award is more about politics and less about accomplishments or efforts.

And are relations truly better with Russia? Obama caved on the missile system instead of getting some concessions in return. You may think that's creating better relations with Russia but it isn't. It shows weakness. The Russian government would have respected stern but fair negations like Reagan did. So I argue Obama lost respect from the Russian government and that makes things worse, not better.

And better relations with the French? Ha! Does that mean we will be buying more from France and less domestically like aircraft? Is that a good thing?? He has no problem disrespecting our allies like England. And don't even get me started on Israel.

His efforts in nuclear nonproliferation? So how are we safer in that area? We aren't. And why can't he make up his mind in Iraq & Afghanistan to either pull out or to send in enough reinforcements to get the job done right? What he's doing is getting more people killed for nothing by his mismanagement. Is that peace-like? I don't think so.

Passion wrote:

I also think the prize has lost a lot of credibility from this selection.

It has been losing credibility for a long time now. Remember in 2007 when they picked Al Gore over the Polish woman who smuggled like two or three thousand Jewish babies out of Warsaw during WWII.

paul87920 wrote:

Passion wrote:

I also think the prize has lost a lot of credibility from this selection.

It has been losing credibility for a long time now. Remember in 2007 when they picked Al Gore over the Polish woman who smuggled like two or three thousand Jewish babies out of Warsaw during WWII.

Well according to some the committee has been moving more towards supporting Markism & Socialism so it makes perfect sense to me.

Or maybe put another way by selecting Obama it means they approve of his moving us away from capitalism right from the start and that's what got him the prize. Well no wonder the French & the Russians love us now.

Yep, the Nobel Peace Prize lost credibility a long time ago...

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Hussein awarded Nobel Peace Prize for not possessing weapons of mass destruction

Oslo, Norway -- Norwegian Nobel Committee officials announced Monday that the 2003 Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein for his efforts in not proliferating and stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.recoilmag.com/news/hussein_awarded_nobel_peace_prize_1103.html

LoisLane wrote:

Yep, the Nobel Peace Prize lost credibility a long time ago...

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Hussein awarded Nobel Peace Prize for not possessing weapons of mass destruction

Oslo, Norway -- Norwegian Nobel Committee officials announced Monday that the 2003 Nobel Peace Prize has been awarded to Iraqi leader Saddam Hussein for his efforts in not proliferating and stockpiling weapons of mass destruction.
http://www.recoilmag.com/news/hussein_awarded_nobel_peace_prize_1103.html

Do you realize you just got pwned? Do some research first before making a jackass out of yourself again.

The 2003 prize was awarded to
SHIRIN EBADI for her efforts for democracy and human rights.