Subject: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 5/19/2009, 11:45 am
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Republican National Committee Chairman Michael Steele will call for an end to the "era of apologizing" in the GOP and urge his fellow party members to "focus all of our energies on winning the future" in a speech today to a gathering of RNC officials in Maryland.
Did I miss the "apologizing" from the GOP? When the hell did it begin? I could have sworn they've spent the last 4 months attacking Obama and just about every other Democrat,while doing their best to obstruct any and all legislation.
Oh,and btw,since when does 4 whole months constitute an "era"? :rolfcry:
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 5/19/2009, 9:36 pm
Highlights from Michael Steele’s “Change in a teabag” speech Posted by Jed Lewison • May 19, 2009 at 4:49 PM Pacific
Shorter version of Michael Steele’s “Change in a teabag” speech to the RNC:
(1) We’re not going to talk about our failed past ever again.
(2) We really hate President Obama and everything he’s doing to America.
(3) There’s never been a better time to be a Republican.
Here’s a highlight reel of Steele’s speech…which almost seemed like a comedy routine:
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 5/21/2009, 2:35 am
The Daily Show did a quick bit on his argument against gay marriage, which he apparently made not realizing it was a fairly substantial argument against all marriage.
And the Colbert Report had a clip of him exposing the whole Pelosi affair as the simple sleight of hand trick it is, a distraction from their support for torture.
Good stuff. I'll post the clips in the morning when they're up.
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 5/21/2009, 9:58 am
Heretic wrote:
The Daily Show did a quick bit on his argument against gay marriage, which he apparently made not realizing it was a fairly substantial argument against all marriage.
Keith Olbermann has a hilarious take on Steele's idiotic claim that it would hurt small business and "cost him money"...
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/20/2009, 2:09 pm
So in other words...he's just an ignorant shill...
Michael Steele, chairman of the RNC, doesn't seem to know the basic terminology of the health care debate.
In a Q&A at the National Press Club just now, Steele was asked if Republicans support an individual requirement to get health care (also known as an individual mandate).
"What do you mean by an individual requirement?" he asked the moderator. After she explained, he dodged the question.
"Again, that is one of those areas where there is different opinions...I don't do policy," he said. "My point in coming here today was to begin to set a tone, and a theme if you will."
Steele was taking questions after giving a speech on health care reform, in which he characterized President Obama's plan as a "reckless experiment" that's "too much, too fast, too soon."
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/21/2009, 11:30 pm
The gift that keeps on giving......
Really, Michael? by BarbinMD Tue Jul 21, 2009 at 06:40:05 PM PDT
For the you-can't-make-this-stuff-up file:
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I’m the first one to say that the party, for political expedience and convenience, quite frankly, didn’t do the hard, steady work of building a ground game and a relationship with the voters.
So along comes Barack Obama, he sounds good, he looks great, it’s a beautiful package, and then we had no filler. We had nothing to fall back on.
We couldn’t even argue the basics of the economy in the last election effectively, and it took a happenstance conversation with a plumber before we could really begin to get that groove.
Comedy. Michael Steele is telling us that the Republican Party was adrift, lost, and unable to connect with the voters until they hooked up with a dishonest, uninformed, hypocritic, who attacked the patriotism of others, spewed homophobic garbage, all while admitting how horny he was.
And then they lost another election.
Of course, you can appreciate why Mr. Steele would think such qualities are major selling points - after all, it's like looking into the mirror of today's Republican Party. Comedy. Michael Steele is telling us that the Republican Party was adrift, lost, and unable to connect with the voters until they hooked up with a dishonest, uninformed, hypocritic, who attacked the patriotism of others, spewed homophobic garbage, all while admitting how horny he was.
And then they lost another election.
Of course, you can appreciate why Mr. Steele would think such qualities are major selling points - after all, it's like looking into the mirror of today's Republican Party.
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/24/2009, 10:39 pm
Pssst, Michael? We Opposed Republican Meddling In Schiavo Case by BarbinMD Fri Jul 24, 2009 at 05:26:04 PM PDT
That sound you hear is millions of Republican heads exploding simultaneously, as Michael Steele once again shoves his foot down his throat:
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That’s the mood the administration is beginning to take. You understand what the underlying principle of socialism is. It is government control of the means of production. In this case, it is the government controlling the means of providing health care to the American people. It is inserting itself into the very fabric of the decisions that you make, have to make every single day. It'll make the Terry Schiavo case look like a walk in the park. You know, you’re going to have meetings and committees, government agencies and bureaucrats making decisions on what kind of health care you get.
RNC Chairman Michael Steele is no stranger to controversy. He has put his foot in his mouth on more than one occasion with some outrageous comments, oftentimes about his own party.
Steele seems to have outdone himself with his latest gaffe while being interviewed by Roland Martin for TV One.
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MARTIN: One of the criticisms I've always had is Republicans -- white Republicans -- have been scared of black folks.
STEELE: You're absolutely right. I mean I've been in the room and they've been scared of me. I'm like, "I'm on your side" and so I can imagine going out there and talking to someone like you, you know, [you're like,] "I'll listen." And they're like "Well." Let me tell you.
While what Steele says is likely true, it is not a good look for the leader of a party trying to re-brand itself as inclusive and diverse enough to win nationwide. And with the Republicans embroiled in civil war, Steele's constant contradictions don't help.
Here are some other groups that are scared of Michael Steele:
* women * small children * dogs * cats * ferrets * fish * people who wear boat shoes * anyone who visited gop.com the day it launched * wind musicians * John Stamos * Republicans who want to win elections
WhitingLib
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 11/10/2009, 2:02 pm
Artie60438 wrote:
Here are some other groups that are scared of Michael Steele:
* women * small children * dogs * cats * ferrets * fish * people who wear boat shoes * anyone who visited gop.com the day it launched * wind musicians * John Stamos * Republicans who want to win elections
Hilarious.
You forgot Russian Tortoises.
paul87920
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 11/10/2009, 6:37 pm
WhitingLib wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
Here are some other groups that are scared of Michael Steele:
* women * small children * dogs * cats * ferrets * fish * people who wear boat shoes * anyone who visited gop.com the day it launched * wind musicians * John Stamos * Republicans who want to win elections
Hilarious.
You forgot Russian Tortoises.
Missed you Lib welcome back!!!
WhitingLib
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 11/11/2009, 10:39 am
Hi Paulie
I'm still around...I just don't post very often.
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 1/11/2010, 10:50 am
Michael Steele has been getting a lot of bad press lately,but he's still very popular in some circles
Daily KOS Poll
OFFICIAL LEADERSHIP POLL: As a Democrat, do you have confidence in RNC Chairman Michael Steele's ability to provide the leadership we need for the GOP? Yes, I have full confidence in RNC Chairman Michael Steele. 74% 5455 votes He's RNC Chairman? I could have sworn he was with the DNC. 26% 1940 votes
Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 1/14/2010, 8:38 pm
Steele was elected chairman in Jan 2009,and the Ensign scandal broke in mid June 2009. We love you Michael Steele,the Baghdad Bob of the GOP! The funnier part of this story is how absolutely livid the party is with this idiot and how they're stuck with him. My advice to Mr Steele? Stay off of small aircraft!
STEELE: I think there were jobs created in the eight years that George Bush was in office.
HAINES: No I’m sorry, you’re mistaken. [...]
STEELE: I think jobs were created. I’m almost confident about that. And I think the markets reflect that. [...]
HAINES: So, did the Lehman blow up and all, that didn’t happen on Bush’s watch? … You were talking about the markets. The markets tanked. [...]
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While Steele is “almost confident” that Bush created jobs, the facts disagree. As the Wall Street Journal noted in the last month of Bush’s term — in an article that Burnett references on air while fact checking Steele — Bush’s job data “shows the worst track record for job creation since the government began keeping records.” A paltry 1 million jobs were created under Bush; that’s “a fraction of the 23 million jobs created under President Bill Clinton’s administration.” Even President Carter — who conservatives love to cite as the paragon of poor economic management, and who only served one term — created 10.5 million jobs. That’s more than three times as many jobs as Bush, in half as much time. More jobs may be created under Obama in this year alone than in Bush’s eight.
The Journal article doesn’t even account for the jobs lost after it was published due to Bush’s economic policy, and before President Obama’s began to take effect, as this chart demonstrates: Bikini chart
Scorpion
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/2/2010, 7:27 pm
Republican chairman Michael Steele drew criticism from within his own party Friday, including calls to resign, after saying the 9-year-old commitment of U.S. troops to Afghanistan was a mistaken "war of Obama's choosing."
"This was a war of Obama's choosing," Steele said. "This is not something the United States has actively prosecuted or wanted to engage in."
As criticism swelled, Steele issued a statement stressing his support for U.S. troops, but he did not acknowledge his factual error about a war launched by former President George W. Bush in response for the terror attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/2/2010, 11:04 pm
Looks like your link was jacked; came up 404 not found. This the right one?
But seriously... talk about epic fail. Either the GOP didn't realize what a retarded twit this guy was prior his election in their vacant appeal to their constituency now that we have a black president or they're assuming their constituency is too retarded to see through endless and obvious bullshit.
With a party of Bush supporters, AGW denialists, and creationists, I can't figure out which.
Honestly... How can anyone possibly defend that statement and expect to be taken seriously? Is anyone even trying? Do they know this guy is on TV promoting the party without a chaperon?
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/4/2010, 10:41 am
Well, they're not all morons. While I don't agree with Think Progress' assessment that they are not refuting Steele's statements (I think the statement was too stupid to warrant one; only the severely mentally deficient could buy such nonsense), it has a nice collection of conservatives condemning his statements:
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- Leading conservative pundit and McCain presidential campaign advisor Bill Kristol called Steele’s comments an “affront…to the commitment of our soldiers” in Afghanistan and demanded that the chairman step down. [7/2/10]
- RedState founder, leading movement conservative, and CNN contributor Erick Erickson said that Steele “has lost all moral authority” and he “must resign.” [7/2/10]
- Rep. Tom Cole (R-OK), former chairman of the National Republican Congressional Committee, said Steele’s remarks were “totally unacceptable” and said that he should “apologize and resign.” [7/03/10]
- Former Bush State Department official and Keep America Safe founder Liz Cheney said that Steele’s Afghanistan comments were “deeply disappointing and wrong” and that it is “time for Steele to step down.” [7/4/10]
- This morning on ABC’s This Week, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said there was “no excuse” for Steele’s comments and told host Jake Tapper that “Mr. Steele is going to have to assess as to whether he can still lead the Republican Party as chairman of the Republican National Committee.” [7/4/10]
- Speaking on Fox News Sunday today, Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) demanded that Steele “apologize to our military” and said that Republicans “need a chairman who’s focused.” [7/4/10]
- On CBS’s Face The Nation, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) called Steele’s remarks “unwise” and said “we must win this war.” The senator was thankful, however, that Steele was “backtracking so fast he’s gonna be here fighting in Kabul soon.” [7/4/10]
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/4/2010, 10:19 pm
Heretic wrote:
Well, they're not all morons. While I don't agree with Think Progress' assessment that they are not refuting Steele's statements (I think the statement was too stupid to warrant one; only the severely mentally deficient could buy such nonsense), it has a nice collection of conservatives condemning his statements:
It probably won't be decided until until the fat man weighs in. Me? I'm keeping my fingers crossed,hoping that he defends him.
UrRight
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/5/2010, 3:16 pm
I follow both parties in Washington/New York Newspapers, Drudge, RSS, you name it.
Here's my opinion: it's NOT the party they are associated with. It is the PERSON you should be concerned with.
Both parties. R and D. And if you had any sense at all, you would vote for the person, not the party.
I say get rid of all of them nationally, even if it means replacing them with grass root candidates.
At this point, what do we have to loose?
Parties of R or D are both responsible for the shape of our country. Not the party, but participants of both that hold the R or D after their names.
They don't switch from one party to another without reason. The only reason is to further their careers and to get voted again by ignorant people that don't both following their voting records and etc.
I don't at this point, think there is a real honest politician out there.
Scorpion
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/5/2010, 4:13 pm
UrRight wrote:
I follow both parties in Washington/New York Newspapers, Drudge, RSS, you name it.
Yeah, well I would hope that everyone does that. I take that as a given.
UrRight wrote:
Here's my opinion: it's NOT the party they are associated with. It is the PERSON you should be concerned with.
I always base my vote on who I feel is the best candidate, based upon my policy preferences.
UrRight wrote:
I say get rid of all of them nationally, even if it means replacing them with grass root candidates.
That approach doesn't seem consistent with "voting for the best person." In effect, you are saying that the "best person" cannot belong to one of the major parties.
UrRight wrote:
Parties of R or D are both responsible for the shape of our country. Not the party, but participants of both that hold the R or D after their names.
They don't switch from one party to another without reason. The only reason is to further their careers and to get voted again by ignorant people that don't both following their voting records and etc.
Yeah, well "party switchers" are the exception, not the norm, so your point seems irrelevant.
The bottom line is that I vote for the person who will vote the way that I want them to vote on the issues that I consider most important to me, and our country.
While I understand the juvenile novelty of "throwing the bums out," I really don't see how that's going to help our country. To be perfectly honest, I see that approach as being simple minded and counterproductive.
UrRight
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/5/2010, 5:14 pm
Ok, I voted for Blago after dipstick went to jail.
I didn't care if he was Demo or Repo.
You vote on their word...then things happen:
He promised the end of corruption at the time he ran the first time.
Look what they got in IL based on Demo really believing Blago would put an end to corruption. They ended up worse.
Nothing. You don't know who to trust anymore.
That's my point. And Obama did the same. Bush did the same...Clinton is when I first started following politics. Our economy was no doubt in great shape, but who is to say he didn't know or ignore 9/11/ in the midst of his "impeachement"? It's a slip and slide with politicians. Give me ONE I can trust on the local, state and Federal level.
I don't go for parties. They switch if they think they will loose. I look up "How they voted, etc." before I vote. I write letters to them...I write the govs the POTUS...no matter what state...it's gotta be that way, or nothing will change.
In any state or entity. Write and call. Make your feelings known. Don't vote for the party...the party is over. Don't vote based on what you "hear". Do your homework and weed them out. Republicans and Democrats are both to blame for our problems today. No doubt.
Scorpion
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/5/2010, 6:17 pm
UrRight wrote:
Ok, I voted for Blago after dipstick went to jail.
I didn't care if he was Demo or Repo.
You vote on their word...then things happen:
He promised the end of corruption at the time he ran the first time.
Look what they got in IL based on Demo really believing Blago would put an end to corruption. They ended up worse.
Nothing. You don't know who to trust anymore.
Yeah, well obviously not the former Governor of Illinois. You seem to be really obsessed with Illinois politics. If that is where you live, then that's your right of course, but I really don't think that you can compare Springfield to Washington in any meaningful way.
UrRight wrote:
That's my point. And Obama did the same.
What's that supposed to mean, exactly? I voted for Obama, and I certainly don't feel that he has betrayed me in any way. As far as I'm concerned, he's done a pretty good job so far, especially considering the difficult circumstances that he inherited. I certainly haven't seen any evidence of "corruption."
UrRight wrote:
I don't go for parties. They switch if they think they will loose. I look up "How they voted, etc." before I vote. I write letters to them...I write the govs the POTUS...no matter what state...it's gotta be that way, or nothing will change.
I'll just put aside the ridiculous contention that party-switching on the National level is common.
That said, there are clear differences in approach between the two major parties, especially at the National level.
I suspect that most everyone who posts here is involved enough to write or call their representatives and make their own views known.
UrRight
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/5/2010, 7:36 pm
I learned through IL politicians growing up in IL and listening to INDIANA politicians that both the states need to get thier prioritie straight.
I worked for politicians in Dolton. Way back in the '80s and the shitz I can tell you would blow your mind.
And that stuff still goes on...in other states/municipilties. I know the tricks.
Let's drop it for tonight. Gotta leave early for Michigan then head down to Bass Lake. Will continue this when I get back.
My point is, you don't judge a book by a cover. So much to learn...so little time. I was fortunate to be exposed way early in local politics. I can only tell you what I know, and experienced and it would shock the hell out of you and others.
Local politics are no different than state and federal. Don't forget..I worked for the Feds, so I worked from the top down.
Scorpion
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Subject: Re: Michael Steele is a comical wingnut 7/5/2010, 8:31 pm
Frankly, I don't give a damn about local politics, and I sure as hell don't want to discuss it on the National Forum.