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PostSubject: Re: Boston Marathon   Boston Marathon - Page 4 Empty4/29/2013, 5:35 pm

The bodies are barely cold, but the New York Times is already revving up the ‘Blame America Built-in Excuse Engine’.




http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/23/opinion/immigrant-kids-adrift.html?_r=0

Immigrant Kids, Adrift

By MARCELO M. SUÁREZ-OROZCO and CAROLA SUÁREZ-OROZCO

THE alleged involvement of two ethnic Chechen brothers in the deadly attack at the Boston Marathon last week should prompt Americans to reflect on whether we do an adequate job assimilating immigrants who arrive in the United States as children or teenagers.
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But the broad lesson — assimilating immigrant students into the fabric of society through academic, psychological and other supports — should inform educators and policy makers in the decades ahead, when immigrants and their children will account for most of the nation’s population growth. One successful model is the Internationals Network for Public Schools, where educators focus on students’ distinct needs and develop authentic connections with their families.
Taking in what Emma Lazarus called the “wretched refuse,” including asylum seekers like the Tsarnaev brothers, without providing a scaffold of support undermines the promise of America.





I see.
They bombed the Boston Marathon because they were never taught by America how to assimilate and to not build bombs.
That can be the only reason. I mean, let’s face it – it’s just not possible that they bombed the marathon because they are psychotic assholes inspired by the Religion of Peace.
Is it?





http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/28/us/shot-at-boxing-title-denied-tamerlan-tsarnaev-reeled.html?hp

BOSTON — It was a blow the immigrant boxer could not withstand: after capturing his second consecutive title as the Golden Gloves heavyweight champion of New England in 2010, Tamerlan Anzorovich Tsarnaev, 23, was barred from the national Tournament of Champions because he was not a United States citizen.
The cocksure fighter, a flamboyant dresser partial to white fur and snakeskin, had been looking forward to redeeming the loss he suffered the previous year in the first round, when the judges awarded his opponent the decision, drawing boos from spectators who considered Mr. Tsarnaev dominant.
From one year to the next, though, the tournament rules had changed, disqualifying legal permanent residents — not only Mr. Tsarnaev, who was Soviet-born of Chechen and Dagestani heritage, but several other New England contenders, too. His aspirations frustrated, he dropped out of boxing competition entirely, and his life veered in a completely different direction.
Mr. Tsarnaev portrayed his quitting as a reflection of the sport’s incompatibility with his growing devotion to Islam. But as dozens of interviews with friends, acquaintances and relatives from Cambridge, Mass., to Dagestan showed, that devotion, and the suspected radicalization that accompanied it, was a path he followed most avidly only after his more secular dreams were dashed in 2010 and he was left adrift.
His trajectory eventually led the frustrated athlete and his loyal younger brother, Dzhokhar, to bomb one of the most famous athletic events in this country, killing three and wounding more than 200 at the Boston Marathon, the authorities say. They say it led Mr. Tsarnaev, his application for citizenship stalled, and his brother, a new citizen and a seemingly well-adjusted college student, to attack their American hometown on Patriots’ Day, April 15.
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As his religious identification grew fiercer, Mr. Tsarnaev seemed to abandon his once avid pursuit of the American dream. He dropped out of community college and lost interest not just in boxing but also in music; he used to play piano and violin, classical music and rap, and his e-mail address was a clue to how he once saw himself: The_Professor@real-hiphop.com. He worked only sporadically, sometimes as a pizza deliverer, and he grew first a close-cropped beard and then a flowing one.
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Or, just maybe, they did it because the older brother lost a boxing title.
Because it’s out of the realm of possibility that they bombed the marathon because they are psychotic assholes inspired by the Religion of Peace.
Isn't it?




At a neighborhood pizzeria, wearing a head covering that matched his jacket, he explained to Albrecht Ammon, 18, that “the Koran is great and flawless, and the Bible is ripped off from the Koran, and the U.S. used the Bible as an excuse to invade different countries.”
“I asked him about radical Muslims that blow themselves up and say, ‘It’s for Allah,’ ” Mr. Ammon said. “And he said he wasn’t one of those Muslims.



No, he wasn't "one of those Muslims".
He didn't even have the decency to blow himself up.
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PostSubject: Re: Boston Marathon   Boston Marathon - Page 4 Empty4/29/2013, 6:41 pm

happy jack wrote:
No, he wasn't "one of those Muslims".
He didn't even have the decency to blow himself up.

Exactly. I think this incident is leaving a lot of people wondering since it doesn't fit the model of Islamic terrorism. That has everything to do with the geopolitical reality of the Middle East, and these guys were very far removed from that. And one of the reasons it couldn't legally be classified as terrorism was because there were no demanded policy changes. Instead, this was a far more random (and frightening, IMHO, as a result) Columbine-type incident.

The guys at Denialism blog have their take:

Why we should be concerned Tamerlan Tsaernev read Infowars

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From the Protocols of the Elders of Zion to 9/11 truth, to Alex Jones Infowars, Tamerlan was a promiscuous-believer in conspiracy theories, and his younger brother, from his Twitter account, appears to also be a CT proponent of 9/11 truth.

While the right would like to blame the behavior of these individuals on radical Islam, I’d like to propose a different source of radical, and hateful behavior. I would suggest we consider that conspiratorial thinking might be behind this type of group violence. As the Salon article mentions, one of the major propaganda elements of groups like Al Qaeda are conspiracies about the US, about Jews, about Israel, about anyone who they believe is their enemy. Conspiracy theories are often a reflection of a feeling of powerlessness, and those who are more likely to believe them are reacting a world which is often disordered, and out-of-control. The conspiracy theory is a simplistic explanation for one’s troubles, and usually incorporate one’s irrational, tribal, or bigoted beliefs about the world.

But while conspiracy theories might make people feel better about an out-of-control world, as it gives them the false perception that they (and no one else) really knows what’s going on, at the same time they feed back on themselves and reinforce that very sense of powerlessness. If democratic government is just a sham, the US is imminently about to round us up and put us in FEMA camps, or kill us with a billion DHS bullets, your supposed grasp of the problem does nothing to solve it. It only further shows how helpless you are to do anything. What are the solutions the conspiracists fall back on? Arming yourself, doomsday prepping, and detachment from society, especially all those stupid sheeple (it’s amazing how often Jones calls his audience stupid!), is the solution. Civil society, voting, community, charity, and collective action aren’t the solution. It’s guns, and isolation.

Should we then be surprised when individuals influenced by these conspiracy theories resort to violence? Should we be surprised that when people are told the political process is a sham, the government is killing us at will, and everyone else who doesn’t believe this is stupid, that they then go out and target government, and other citizens, and cops, indiscriminately? Isn’t this just conspiracy theorists, like Jones, and Al Qaeda for that matter, just reaping what they sow?

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I think we have to stop just blaming the religious extremism, and start considering the role of conspiratorial extremism in acts of political violence and terror around the world. When you make people feel powerless, and stupid, and excluded from society and participatory democracy, one should not be surprised when they turn to violence and political terrorism.

Interesting read.
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PostSubject: Re: Boston Marathon   Boston Marathon - Page 4 Empty5/1/2013, 8:24 am

Holy shitsnacks.

Gohmert: Muslim Brotherhood members ‘have influence’ in White House

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Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) revisited the anti-Muslim accusations lobbied by Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MI) last year in a radio interview, Think Progress reported on Saturday.

“Radical Islam is at war with us,” Gohmert said in an interview on Thursday with World Net Daily radio. “Thank God for the moderates that don’t approve of what’s being done. But this administration has so many Muslim Brotherhood members that have influence that they just are making wrong decisions for America.”

And Eric Holder is siding with the bombers, according to this genius. I really wish Republicans were yelling for this asshole's (and any others like him) immediate resignation the way they did for Van Jones, given these statements are magnitudes worse.

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Attorney General Eric Holder, Gohmert said, spent more time “trying to help terrorists than trying to corral them” before assuming his current post, which he said was demonstrated by the reading of Miranda rights on Monday to Boston Marathon bombing suspect Dzhokhar Tsarnaev.

More bullshit about Miranda rights, and the hilarious belief that you don't have them until they're read to you... ugh. People in office that are this stupid need a public flogging everytime they start spewing such verbal diarrhea. Or a fucking caseworker to help manage their episodes.
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PostSubject: Re: Boston Marathon   Boston Marathon - Page 4 Empty5/2/2013, 11:44 am

New Hampshire Legislator Claims Boston Bombing Was An Inside Job Because Victim Looked Calm

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Several days after suggesting the Boston Bombing was perpetrated by the U.S. government, New Hampshire State Rep. Stella Tremblay (R-NH) doubled down on the claim Tuesday. In an interview on the radio show of anti-government conspiracy theorist Pete Santilli, Tremblay opined that since photos of a victim who lost his legs did not appear to show him “in shock” or “screaming in agony,” the attack must have been staged.

Citing Alex Jones and his conspiracy theory site Infowars, Tremblay notes that while she once believed 9/11 was a real attack by terrorists, 9/11 “truthers” have opened her eyes. This attack too, she argues, was a “Black Ops” attack staged — apparently unconvincingly — by the federal government.

Van Jones signed a petition. This crazy bitch is an admitted Twoofer and believes the government was behind the marathon bombing. Where's the Republican outrage now? If it doesn't start soon, the GOP owes Van Jones an apology, at the very least.
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