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Heretic
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 10:41 am | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- This:
The Obama administration is sticking to its position that Tuesday's deadly attack in Benghazi wasn't premeditated, contradicting U.S. lawmakers and Libya's own president. Yeah. Read that the first time. Repetition isn't providing clarification. So again, fell for what... exactly? Did you "fall" for the Obama's account of the incident? Or Libya's? Which account did you "fall for"? | |
| | | happy jack
Posts : 6988
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 10:52 am | |
| - Heretic wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- This:
The Obama administration is sticking to its position that Tuesday's deadly attack in Benghazi wasn't premeditated, contradicting U.S. lawmakers and Libya's own president. Yeah. Read that the first time. Repetition isn't providing clarification. So again, fell for what... exactly?
Did you "fall" for the Obama's account of the incident? Or Libya's? Which account did you "fall for"? I was referring to the Obama account. | |
| | | happy jack
Posts : 6988
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 10:53 am | |
| http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/pakistan/9557463/Thirteen-killed-in-Pakistan-protests-against-anti-Islam-film.htmlThirteen killed in Pakistan protests against anti-Islam filmThirteen people died in riots across Pakistan when thousands of protesters used a national holiday to stage demonstrations against a film denigrating the Prophet Mohammed. By Rob Crilly, in Islamabad 3:14PM BST 21 Sep 2012 Nine people were killed in Karachi, including a police officer who was shot, as demonstrations provided cover for arsonists and looters who attacked shops and restaurants. A protester and a driver with a TV news channel were killed by police gunfire in the north-western city of Peshawar, where four people died amid attacks on cinemas and government offices. Pakistan said it summoned the most senior US diplomat in Islamabad to protest against a YouTube trailer for an anti-Islam film made by a small group of extremists in the United States. - Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
[/quote] Artie, please – please - step up immediately and do the right thing. The wisdom you are selfishly keeping hidden in the dark recesses of your huge intellect may be the only thing standing between peace in the Middle East and its complete and total implosion. You have the solution – you have said so yourself – so share it with the rest of the world so that we may have peace once and for all. | |
| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 12:46 pm | |
| http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/09/20129219618263113.htmlDeath toll rises in Pakistan video protests At least 17 reported killed as demonstrators clash with police, while nation holds "Love the Prophet Day" marches.Reports say more than 17 people have died as demonstrations against an anti-Islam video erupted across Pakistan, a day after protesters tried to storm the US embassy in the capital, Islamabad. Tens of thousands of Pakistanis took to the streets across the country after the government called an impromptu public holiday to let people protest under the banner of "Love the Prophet Day". In Karachi, armed protesters among a group of 15,000 fired on police, killing two officers, as at least 10 protesters died in the violence. The crowd also burned six cinemas, two banks, a KFC and five police vehicles.
Crowds armed with clubs and bamboo poles converged on the Firdaus picture house, "smashing it up and setting furniture ablaze", according to Gohar Ali, a police officer. Witnesses said a separate rampaging crowd stormed the Shama cinema, notorious locally for showing films considered to be pornographic. In the Pakistani city of Peshawar, police fired on rioters who were torching a cinema. Mohammad Amir, a driver for a Pakistani television station, was killed when police bullets hit his vehicle at the scene, said Kashif Mahmood, a reporter for ARY TV. At least four protesters and one police officer were killed in the northwestern city, along with 40 injured and two cinemas and two shops torched. In the capital Islamabad, some 19 protesters and eight police were injured. And in Lahore, at least five protesters were wounded. - Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
It's escalating, Artie. In the name of God and all that is holy, please - share your wisdom!!!! | |
| | | edge540
Posts : 1165
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 1:52 pm | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- Meanwhile, the Middle East is in a state of chaos, and all the major players wait with bated breath for your solution.
I'd like to know what would be YOUR solution. Waiting with bated breath. | |
| | | happy jack
Posts : 6988
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 2:19 pm | |
| - edge540 wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- Meanwhile, the Middle East is in a state of chaos, and all the major players wait with bated breath for your solution.
I'd like to know what would be YOUR solution.
Waiting with bated breath. Moi? Unlike Artie, I never claimed to have one. | |
| | | Artie60438
Posts : 9728
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 5:09 pm | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia/2012/09/20129219618263113.html
Death toll rises in Pakistan video protests
[b]At least 17 reported killed as demonstrators clash with police, while nation holds "Love the Prophet Day" marches. Hmmmm....Population of Pakistan 180 MILLION....minus 17 dead. In other words, .99999? did not choose to participate. Btw,What happened to that "Home field advantage" you were yapping about? - happy jack wrote:
There is no mass rioting in the U.S. because the would-be rioters do not have home-field advantage, and they know that they would get their miserable asses kicked for attempting such a thing. That should be obvious to normal people.
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| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 5:15 pm | |
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| | | Artie60438
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 7:49 pm | |
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| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 9:58 pm | |
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| | | Artie60438
Posts : 9728
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/21/2012, 10:09 pm | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
Waiting to hear your solution. You're gonna have a long wait. | |
| | | happy jack
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| | | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 12:36 am | |
| http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206574/PakistanTV-airs-White-House-advert-denouncing-Innocence-Muslims. In a bid to tamp down public rage over the anti-Islam film, the American embassy in Islamabad is spending $70,000 to air an ad on Pakistani television that features President Barack Obama and Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton denouncing the video.Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2206574/PakistanTV-airs-White-House-advert-denouncing-Innocence-Muslims.html#ixzz27AKoS1idWill Boy Barry spend $70,000 of the taxpayers’ money to denounce this other work of “art”? Will wait and see. Will not hold breath. And has the NYPD pulled its riot gear out of mothballs in anticipation of mass Christian riots?http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2012/09/piss_christ_is.php"Art" Piss Christ Is Back in New YorkBy James King Fri., Sep. 21 2012 at 2:14 PM 8 Comments Good news, "art" lovers: Piss Christ is back in the Big Apple.
The controversial Andres Serrano work is just a photo of a crucifix soaking in the "artist's" urine. Somehow, it's considered "art" and will be showcased at the Edward Tyler Nahem gallery starting Thursday.
Piss Christ first stirred up controversy in 1989 when former New York senator Al D'Amato took to the Senate to complain about the "piece of trash."
It's a "deplorable, despicable display of vulgarity," Senator Pothole said at the time.
If Jesus soaking in piss doesn't offend you, this might: Piss Christ received taxpayer funding from the National Endowment for the Arts.
So not only is Jesus soaking in piss, but also you paid for it. | |
| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 1:53 am | |
| - Artie60438 wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
Slow day in trolltown? I'm still waiting for you to explain why there is no rioting in the US over the movie? There is no mass rioting in the U.S. because the would-be rioters do not have home-field advantage, and they know that they would get their miserable asses kicked for attempting such a thing. That should be obvious to normal people. Really? That's going to scare them? You don't think rioters in other countries never suffer consequences? They could hold mass demonstrations here,yet I don't believe they have. No suicide bombings either. Your answer simply makes no sense.
Why do you think there is no rioting in the U.S.? | |
| | | Heretic
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 11:01 am | |
| Libyans storm militia building after giant protest in wake of attack on US consulate - Quote :
- Hundreds of protesters stormed the compound of one of Libya’s strongest armed Islamic extremist groups Friday, evicting militiamen and setting fire to their building as the attack that killed the U.S. ambassador and three other Americans sparked a public backlash against armed groups that run rampant in the country and defy the country’s new, post-Moammar Gadhafi leadership.
Armed men at the administrative center for the Ansar al-Shariah militia, suspected to have led the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Benghazi consulate, first fired in the air to disperse the crowd, but eventually withdrew from the site with their weapons and vehicles after it was surrounded by waves of protesters shouting “No to militias.”
“I don’t want to see armed men wearing Afghani-style clothes stopping me in the street to give me orders, I only want to see people in uniform,” said Omar Mohammed, a university student who took part in the takeover, which protesters said was done in support of the army and police.
No deaths were reported in the incident, which came after tens of thousands marched in Benghazi in a rally against armed militias. A vehicle was also burned at the compound, which was taken over by Libyan security forces after its occupants fled.
For many Libyans, last week’s attack on the U.S. Consulate in the eastern city of Benghazi was the last straw with one of the biggest problems Libya has faced since Gadhafi’s ouster and death around a year ago — the multiple mini-armies that with their arsenals of machine guns and rocket-propelled grenades are stronger than the regular armed forces and police.
The militias, a legacy of the rag-tag popular forces that fought Gadhafi’s regime, tout themselves as protectors of Libya’s revolution, providing security where police cannot. But many say they act like gangs, detaining and intimidating rivals and carrying out killings. Militias made up of Islamic radicals are notorious for attacks on Muslims who don’t abide by their hardline ideology. Officials and witnesses say fighters from Ansar al-Shariah led the attack on the U.S. consulate.
Some 30,000 people filled a broad boulevard as they marched along a lake in central Benghazi on Friday to the gates of the headquarters of Ansar al-Shariah.
“No, no, to militias,” the crowd chanted, filling a broad boulevard. They carried banners and signs demanding that militias disband and that the government build up police to take their place in keeping security. “Benghazi is in a trap,” signs read. “Where is the army, where is the police?”
Other signs mourned the killing of U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens, reading, “The ambassador was Libya’s friend” and “Libya lost a friend.” Military helicopters and fighter jets flew overhead, and police mingled in the crowd, buoyed by the support of the protesters.
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Residents of another main eastern city, Darna, have also begun to stand up against Ansar al-Shariah and other militias.
The anti-militia fervor in Darna is notable because the city, in the mountains along the Mediterranean coast north of Benghazi, has long had a reputation as a stronghold for Islamic extremists. During the Gadhafi era, it was the hotbed of a deadly Islamist insurgency against his regime. A significant number of the Libyan jihadists who travelled to Afghanistan and Iraq during recent wars came from Darna. During the revolt against him last year, Gadhafi’s regime warned that Darna would declare itself an Islamic Emirate and ally itself with al-Qaida.
But now, the residents are lashing out against Ansar al-Shariah, the main Islamic extremist group in the city.
“The killing of the ambassador blew up the situation. It was disastrous,” said Ayoub al-Shedwi, a young bearded Muslim preacher in Darna who says he has received multiple death threats because has spoken out against militias on a radio show he hosts. “We felt that the revolution is going in vain.”
Al-Shedwi said some were afraid that if they don’t act to rein them in, the U.S. will strike against the militias, pushing people to support the gunmen. Just a cover. | |
| | | Heretic
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 11:09 am | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- Why do you think there is no rioting in the U.S.?
I know I've tried explaining it to you before... It has little to do with the religion and everything to do with the geopolitical reality they live in. There's no riots here because there's no reason to. | |
| | | Artie60438
Posts : 9728
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 11:26 am | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
Waiting to hear your solution. You're gonna have a long wait. [b]I was never actually expecting to hear your solution. I have had enough experience with you to know that you were lying from the get-go. What did I lie about,Einstein? The fact that I have no intention of getting into a useless hypothetical discussion with you and thus will not share my ideas does not constitute a lie. I suggest you calm down,stop your tantrum,and move on. | |
| | | Artie60438
Posts : 9728
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 11:58 am | |
| - Heretic wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- Why do you think there is no rioting in the U.S.?
I know I've tried explaining it to you before... It has little to do with the religion and everything to do with the geopolitical reality they live in. There's no riots here because there's no reason to. Bingo! When Muammar Gaddafi was overthrown Libyans thought that their lives would be very different,much like the Iraqis did. Unfortunately it takes a considerable amount of time to set up a new government,put security in place, and agree on a Constitution. Heck,it took us 13 years from the end of the Revolutionary war before the US Constitution went into effect. Meanwhile there are still a small number of Islamic extremists and fanatics in these places whose only desire is to promote unrest and sponsor terrorists. The right-wingers always focus on them,while conveniently ignoring the other .99999?% of Muslims who just want to live a peaceful life and have the same opportunities as other free people. When Bin-Laden was killed one of the documents they found was that he was extremely disappointed that the US was focused on Al-Quaeda and not the Islamic religion as a whole. Neither George Bush nor Obama ever blamed the Islamic religion for 911. Bin-Laden clearly wanted a religious war,but never got one. Unfortunately in this country there are still too many people like Happy Jack and the Neocon far right that essentially play right into Bin-Laden's hands. | |
| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 3:12 pm | |
| - Artie60438 wrote:
- What did I lie about,Einstein?
- Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
Making claims that you cannot back up is the very definition of lying. | |
| | | happy jack
Posts : 6988
| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 4:44 pm | |
| - Heretic wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- Why do you think there is no rioting in the U.S.?
I know I've tried explaining it to you before... It has little to do with the religion and everything to do with the geopolitical reality they live in. There's no riots here because there's no reason to. Any thoughts as to why Christians living in some of these Middle Eastern countries, under the same geopolitical conditions, are not behaving like Stone-Age savages over the Piss Christ exhibit or the portrait of the Virgin Mary covered in dung and vaginas? | |
| | | Artie60438
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 6:04 pm | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
- What did I lie about,Einstein?
- Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
[b]Making claims that you cannot back up is the very definition of lying. Since you don't know what my idea is,how could you possibly know if I could back it up? Your comment is a prime example of why I choose to limit the amount of time I waste on you. Please continue chasing your tail | |
| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 6:18 pm | |
| - Artie60438 wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
- What did I lie about,Einstein?
- Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
[b]Making claims that you cannot back up is the very definition of lying. Since you don't know what my idea is,how could you possibly know if I could back it up?
The very fact that you cannot even verbalize this imaginary solution of yours is proof enough that you are lying about having such a solution. See my comment on Harry Reid in the 10.0 thread- same principle. | |
| | | Artie60438
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 6:57 pm | |
| - happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
- happy jack wrote:
- Artie60438 wrote:
- What did I lie about,Einstein?
- Artie60438 wrote:
- I have a different idea as to how to deal with this type garbage.
[b]Making claims that you cannot back up is the very definition of lying. Since you don't know what my idea is,how could you possibly know if I could back it up?
The very fact that you cannot even verbalize this imaginary solution of yours is proof enough that you are lying about having such a solution. The fact I choose not to verbalize it proves nothing. - Quote :
- See my comment on Harry Reid in the 10.0 thread- same principle.
Doubling down on your stupidity? I can't wait! | |
| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 7:02 pm | |
| - Artie60438 wrote:
- The fact I choose not to verbalize it proves nothing.
Yes, it does. It proves that you are either a liar, or a weasel. You pick. | |
| | | happy jack
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| Subject: Re: Libyan Embassy Attack 9/22/2012, 7:04 pm | |
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