The horror.... the horror ....

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edge540 wrote:: The GOP has an endless supply of morons.
We should be proud.

Indiana Congressman says immigrant kids might have Ebola
http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/indiana-congressman-says-immigrant-kids-might-have-ebola/article_6cd84d69-3909-50d7-aa64-cc211b491795.html

Turns out Rokita wasn't even the 1st to float the crazy idea,a wing-nut physician did...
Ebola is serious, but immigrant fear-mongering is not

Quote :

When it comes to unaccompanied migrant children from Central America, some have dealt with the humanitarian crisis more responsibly than others. A few weeks ago, for example, Rep. Phil Gingrey (R-Ga.) told the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention there have been “reports of illegal immigrants carrying deadly diseases,” including the Ebola virus.

Gingrey, himself a physician by trade, might have missed the fact that we’re talking about children fleeing Central American countries where Ebola doesn’t exist.

The far-right Georgian took a fair amount of flak for such reckless fear-mongering, but it appears Rep. Todd Rokita (R-Ind.) missed the story because he made the exact same mistake.

Quote :: According to the Northwest Indiana Times, Rokita said that the issue of infection had come up during a conversation with fellow Rep. Larry Bucshon (R-IN), who happens to also be a heart surgeon.

“He said, look, we need to know just from a public-health standpoint, with Ebola circulating and everything else – no, that’s my addition to it, not necessarily his – but he said we need to know the condition of these kids,” Rokita said, according to the Times.

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Girly-men banned from macho gay bars?
How ever will I sleep?
A whole new can of worms has been opened.

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/384621/ruling-gay-bear-bar-discriminated-against-effeminate-man-drag-andrew-johnson

AUGUST 5, 2014 5:37 PM
Ruling: Gay ‘Bear Bar’ Discriminated against Effeminate Man in Drag
Bar's dress code nondiscriminatory “at face value,” civil-rights division admits.

By Andrew Johnson

A Denver gay bar discriminated against a man in drag last year by refusing him entry because of his feminine appearance, according to a new ruling by a Colorado civil-rights division. The ruling found that the the bar had a history of turning down men who “exhibit effeminacy” while allowing women “with a masculine gender presentation.”
………
In August 2013, Vito Marzano tried to get into The Denver Wrangler, a popular gay bar, wearing a dress, makeup, and a wig, according to the Associated Press. When he gave his ID to the bouncer, Marzano was told he could not enter because his appearance did not match his driver’s license.
The bar’s owner argued that the bouncer was following protocol, in line with state liquor laws to prevent underage drinking, for which the Wrangler had been fined in the past. Additionally, Marzano was reportedly aggressive and drunk at the time, which played into the bouncer’s decision.
But the civil-rights division for Colorado’s Department of Regulatory Agencies ruled that the bar’s dress code raises questions about its inclusiveness. For example, its policy against wigs, strong perfume, and “appearance-altering makeup” has a disparate impact on male clientele.
“In other words, a female with a masculine gender presentation would be permitted to enter, whereas, a male presenting as a female would be denied entry,” the division’s director wrote. The Denver Post reports that the division report stated that the Wrangler’s reputation as a “bear bar” leads it to show favor towards more traditionally masculine-looking men.

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http://sacramento.cbslocal.com/2014/08/08/sacramento-taxi-drivers-say-english-test-requirement-is-setting-them-up-for-failure/

Sacramento Taxi Drivers Say English Test Requirement Is Setting Them Up For Failure
August 8, 2014 6:28 PM

SACRAMENTO (CBS13) — Taxi drivers required to pass an English test to renew their permits in Sacramento say they’re being set up for failure.
Part of a newly passed ordinance that recently went into effect requires drivers to know a certain level of English. The city says the requirement came from passenger complaints.
“We received a number of complaints from passengers that they couldn’t communicate with the driver of where they need to go and what they needed,” said city revenue manager Brad Wasson.

I think a better way of looking at this is that by learning English, these drivers would be setting themselves up for success.

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Elisabeth Hasselbeck links atheists forcing prayer out of school to Christian deaths in Iraq

Quote :: Fox News host Elisabeth Hasselbeck asserted on Wednesday that Christianity should be kept in schools because Christians were being persecuted by Islamic militants in Iraq.

“It looks like two groups might not get the Bible,” Hasselbeck announce on Wednesday’s edition of Fox & Friends. “There’s a war on religion going on, you know it. And right now Bibles are booted from Navy base guest rooms, and an atheist group is telling a Georgia high school football team to punt the prayers.”

Earlier this week the Navy announced that it was removing all religious materials from Navy guest lodges after the Freedom From Religion Foundation questioned whether the practice was constitutional. And the Appignani Humanist Legal Center accused Chestatee High School in Georgia of illegal religious practices for using prayer and Bible verses to inspire football players.

“I don’t know how having a Bible in a hotel room in a drawer is forced on anyone,” Fox News co-host Eric Bolling opined. “You don’t want to read it, leave it in the drawer. How is that implicating the Navy in any way, shape or form?”

“You would think that a federally run organization would be able to make their own decisions,” co-host Brian Kilmeade agreed. “But its atheist organizations that are pushing back on that.”

After reading comments from a few viewers who accused atheists of wanting to have more rights than Christians, Hasselbeck connected the situation to violence in Iraq.

“You know, in light of what’s going on in the world and the persecution of Christians right now, how close do we want to get to eliminating religious freedom in the globe?” she asked. “Particularly here.”

Bolling added that he carried a copy of the Constitution in his pocket “every single day,” and he was pretty sure that atheists were “overstepping the bounds.”

How about not shoving your superstitious beliefs based on an imaginary friend on everyone else? A bible in every room makes about as much sense as having as Ouija board in every room or a magic 8 Ball.

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Artie60438 wrote:: How about not shoving your superstitious beliefs based on an imaginary friend on everyone else? A bible in every room makes about as much sense as having as Ouija board in every room or a magic 8 Ball.

http://atheism.about.com/od/barackobamareligionfaith/a/ObamaReligion.htm

Barack Obama's Religious Beliefs & Background: What Does Barack Obama Believe?

As a child in Indonesia, Obama studied for two years at one Muslim school and then two years at a Catholic school. In both places he experienced religious indoctrination, but in neither case did the indoctrination take hold: during Quranic studies he made faces and during Catholic prayers he would look around the room. Eventually, Barack Obama abandoned this non-conformism and skepticism to be baptized as an adult in the Trinity United Church of Christ.

http://atheism.about.com/od/hillaryclintonreligion/a/ClintonReligion.htm
Hillary Clinton's Religious Background & Beliefs: What Does Clinton Believe?

Religious Beliefs of Hillary Clinton Affect Positions on Religion, Secularism

Hillary Clinton grew up in a Methodist household, she taught Methodist Sunday school like her mother, is a member of a Senate prayer group, and regularly attends the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington. Hillary Clinton can be placed in the moderate to liberal wing of American Christianity, but she appears to share a number of attitudes with more conservative American Christians. Clinton's liberalism is a relative matter: she's more liberal than many in America, and certainly more liberal than the Christian Right, but she has a long way to go to support truly progressive stances when it comes to religious debates.

It's a sign of maturity that you are able to ridicule the beliefs of those you support and/or vote for.

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happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:: How about not shoving your superstitious beliefs based on an imaginary friend on everyone else? A bible in every room makes about as much sense as having as Ouija board in every room or a magic 8 Ball.

http://atheism.about.com/od/barackobamareligionfaith/a/ObamaReligion.htm

Barack Obama's Religious Beliefs & Background: What Does Barack Obama Believe?

As a child in Indonesia, Obama studied for two years at one Muslim school and then two years at a Catholic school. In both places he experienced religious indoctrination, but in neither case did the indoctrination take hold: during Quranic studies he made faces and during Catholic prayers he would look around the room. Eventually, Barack Obama abandoned this non-conformism and skepticism to be baptized as an adult in the Trinity United Church of Christ.

http://atheism.about.com/od/hillaryclintonreligion/a/ClintonReligion.htm
Hillary Clinton's Religious Background & Beliefs: What Does Clinton Believe?

Religious Beliefs of Hillary Clinton Affect Positions on Religion, Secularism

Hillary Clinton grew up in a Methodist household, she taught Methodist Sunday school like her mother, is a member of a Senate prayer group, and regularly attends the Foundry United Methodist Church in Washington. Hillary Clinton can be placed in the moderate to liberal wing of American Christianity, but she appears to share a number of attitudes with more conservative American Christians. Clinton's liberalism is a relative matter: she's more liberal than many in America, and certainly more liberal than the Christian Right, but she has a long way to go to support truly progressive stances when it comes to religious debates.

[b]It's a sign of maturity that you are able to ridicule the beliefs of those you support and/or vote for.

They don't try and shove their beliefs down people's throats. Unfortunately they have to pander to idiots like yourself in order to be electable.....you know...."the guns & god" crowd.

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Artie60438 wrote:: They don't try and shove their beliefs down people's throats.

I didn’t say that they did. Pay attention.

Artie60438 wrote:: Unfortunately they have to pander to idiots like yourself in order to be electable.....you know...."the guns & god" crowd.

So they flat-out lie about their religious beliefs in order to get elected?
Very commendable indeed.

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happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:: They don't try and shove their beliefs down people's throats.

I didn’t say that they did. Pay attention.

Artie60438 wrote:: Unfortunately they have to pander to idiots like yourself in order to be electable.....you know...."the guns & god" crowd.

So they flat-out lie about their religious beliefs in order to get elected?
Very commendable indeed.

I didn't say they lied,I said they have to pander. Pay attention,troll

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Artie60438 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:: They don't try and shove their beliefs down people's throats.

I didn’t say that they did. Pay attention.

Artie60438 wrote:: Unfortunately they have to pander to idiots like yourself in order to be electable.....you know...."the guns & god" crowd.

So they flat-out lie about their religious beliefs in order to get elected?
Very commendable indeed.

I didn't say they lied,I said they have to pander. Pay attention,troll

Do Hillary and Barry hold

Artie60438 wrote:: superstitious beliefs based on an imaginary friend,

or don't they?

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happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:: They don't try and shove their beliefs down people's throats.

I didn’t say that they did. Pay attention.

Artie60438 wrote:: Unfortunately they have to pander to idiots like yourself in order to be electable.....you know...."the guns & god" crowd.

So they flat-out lie about their religious beliefs in order to get elected?
Very commendable indeed.

I didn't say they lied,I said they have to pander. Pay attention,troll

Do Hillary and Barry hold

Artie60438 wrote:: superstitious beliefs based on an imaginary friend,

or don't they?

Game over,troll. I've made my feelings clear. No more endless questions Sleep

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happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

Artie60438 wrote:: They don't try and shove their beliefs down people's throats.

I didn’t say that they did. Pay attention.

Artie60438 wrote:: Unfortunately they have to pander to idiots like yourself in order to be electable.....you know...."the guns & god" crowd.

So they flat-out lie about their religious beliefs in order to get elected?
Very commendable indeed.

I didn't say they lied,I said they have to pander. Pay attention,troll

Do Hillary and Barry hold

Artie60438 wrote:: superstitious beliefs based on an imaginary friend,

or don't they?

Game over,troll. I've made my feelings clear. No more endless questions Sleep

It’s a very simple yes/no question.
Do Barry and Hillary harbor “superstitious beliefs based on an imaginary friend”, or do they simply lie about holding such beliefs in order to get votes?
If the former, why in the world would you vote for and support someone who, in your dismissive opinion, is stupid enough to believe in “imaginary friends”?
(I will consider a lack of response to be your concession that they are lying because, as you can see, there is very little substantive difference between pandering and lying.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandering_(politics)

Pandering is the act of expressing one's views in accordance with the likes of a group to which one is attempting to appeal. The term is most notably associated with politics. In pandering, the views one is verbally expressing are merely for the purpose of drawing support up to and including votes and do not necessarily reflect one's personal values.

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Republican candidates don't want to talk about Supreme Court's gay marriage (non) decision

Quote :

Just 10 short years ago, George W. Bush was using using opposition to same-sex marriage to help win swing states. But Monday, when the Supreme Court effectively made marriage equality the law in five and soon to be 11 more states, Republican candidates didn't want to talk about it.

Perhaps the most outspoken current Republican candidate was North Carolina's Thom Tillis, and even he kept it to a joint statement with the Republican state Senate leader saying that, until the Supreme Court settles the matter, "we will vigorously defend the values of our state and the will of more than 60 percent of North Carolina voters who made it clear that marriage is between one man and one woman." Other candidates kept their heads down, likely embracing this logic:

Quote :: “We don’t have to agree with the decision, but as long as we’re not against it we should be okay,” said one aide to a 2016 contender who declined to be named to speak candidly on the sensitive topic. “The base, meanwhile, will focus its anger on the Court, and not on us.”

By contrast, 2016 Republican hopeful Ted Cruz was practically breathing fire over the Supreme Court's rejection of the appeals, calling it "judicial activism at its worst." The "activism" part is funny, given that what the Court did was to decide not to act to overturn lower courts. But the fact that the Republican shrieking the most loudly is one with his eye not on November's general elections but on 2016 Republican primary voters is telling: Cruz's outrage may well work with Iowa caucusers and South Carolina primary voters, but, as this year's candidates clearly know, it will not help in a general election.

The horror.... the horror .... - Page 5 RTX14MHT

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Artie60438 wrote:

Republican candidates don't want to talk about Supreme Court's gay marriage (non) decision

Quote :

Just 10 short years ago, George W. Bush was using using opposition to same-sex marriage to help win swing states. But Monday, when the Supreme Court effectively made marriage equality the law in five and soon to be 11 more states, Republican candidates didn't want to talk about it.

Perhaps the most outspoken current Republican candidate was North Carolina's Thom Tillis, and even he kept it to a joint statement with the Republican state Senate leader saying that, until the Supreme Court settles the matter, "we will vigorously defend the values of our state and the will of more than 60 percent of North Carolina voters who made it clear that marriage is between one man and one woman." Other candidates kept their heads down, likely embracing this logic:

Quote :: “We don’t have to agree with the decision, but as long as we’re not against it we should be okay,” said one aide to a 2016 contender who declined to be named to speak candidly on the sensitive topic. “The base, meanwhile, will focus its anger on the Court, and not on us.”

By contrast, 2016 Republican hopeful Ted Cruz was practically breathing fire over the Supreme Court's rejection of the appeals, calling it "judicial activism at its worst." The "activism" part is funny, given that what the Court did was to decide not to act to overturn lower courts. But the fact that the Republican shrieking the most loudly is one with his eye not on November's general elections but on 2016 Republican primary voters is telling: Cruz's outrage may well work with Iowa caucusers and South Carolina primary voters, but, as this year's candidates clearly know, it will not help in a general election.

Your outrage over the lack of Republican support for gay marriage is rather charming, considering that the same issue didn’t mean jack shit to you when you voted to elect Obama, whose views were:

“I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now, for me as a Christian — for me — for me as a Christian, it is also a sacred union. God’s in the mix.” - April 17, 2008, while running for president, defining marriage at the Saddleback Presidential Forum.

“I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage. But when you start playing around with constitutions, just to prohibit somebody who cares about another person, it just seems to me that’s not what America’s about.” - Nov. 2, 2008, while running for president, in an interview with MTV.

And as to his claim that he is a Christian: did you feel comfortable voting for someone so gullible as to believe that there is an imaginary Magic Man in the Sky pulling all the strings?
Or did you know that he was lying …. oops, I mean ‘pandering, as you put it …. when he claimed to be a Christian?

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Just curious Jack, how do YOU feel about gay marriage?

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happy jack wrote:: [b]Your outrage over the lack of Republican support for gay marriage is rather charming, considering that the same issue didn’t mean jack shit to you when you voted to elect Obama, whose views were

Yeah,because it was way way down on my list of issues, doesn't affect me personally,and never will. However it was plain to me that President Obama was a man capable of evolving running against right wing nutjobs that are inflexible and who stay stuck on stupid. Eventually he did evolve

house troll wrote:: [b]And as to his claim that he is a Christian: did you feel comfortable voting for someone so gullible as to believe that there is an imaginary Magic Man in the Sky pulling all the strings?
Or did you know that he was lying …. oops, I mean ‘pandering, as you put it …. when he claimed to be a Christian?

As long as he doesn't claim that he talks to fictional characters or supposed deities like "god",We're good.

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Artie60438 wrote:: Yeah,because it was way way down on my list of issues, doesn't affect me personally,and never will.

So why are you so worked up over it now?
What has changed, other than the fact that a Republican holds that view rather than a Democrat?

Artie60438 wrote:: As long as he doesn't claim that he talks to fictional characters or supposed deities like "god",We're good.

What do you think he does in church, if not pray, which means that he is quite clearly talking to what you claim to be “fictional characters or supposed deities like "god"”?
Or is he faking it much in the same way he was apparently faking his opposition to gay marriage in order to garner votes?

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again...

Just curious Jack, as a conservative republican, how do YOU feel about gay marriage?

happy jack wrote:: Or is he faking it much in the same way he was apparently faking his opposition to gay marriage in order to garner votes?

Using your brilliant logic and reasoning a lot of people in this country were "faking"it, jack. lol!

Quote :: According to Pew Research Center polling, 48% of Americans support same-sex marriage with 43% opposed. Back in 2001, 57% opposed same-sex marriage while 35% supported it.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/03/01/politics/same-sex-marriage-shift/

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edge540 wrote:: again...

Just curious Jack, as a conservative republican, how do YOU feel about gay marriage?

We've already been over this extensively, edge.

happy jack wrote:: I'm perfectly fine with gay marriage.

happy jack wrote:: I was OK with it long before Obama told you and the others on this board that you had been granted permission to be OK with it.

happy jack wrote:: I've never been one to either seek to ban gay marriage, nor to actively advocate in favor of it. It is something that has no effect on me either way so, again, I did not put a lot of energy into worrying about it one way or the other.

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happy jack wrote:

edge540 wrote:: again...

Just curious Jack, as a conservative republican, how do YOU feel about gay marriage?

We've already been over this extensively, edge.

happy jack wrote:: I'm perfectly fine with gay marriage.

happy jack wrote:: I was OK with it long before Obama told you and the others on this board that you had been granted permission to be OK with it.

happy jack wrote:: I've never been one to either seek to ban gay marriage, nor to actively advocate in favor of it. It is something that has no effect on me either way so, again, I did not put a lot of energy into worrying about it one way or the other.

That's great!
Good to see you and Barry agreeing on this issue.

Too bad the ~~bigots~~ people you vote for, still have a problem with it.

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edge540 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

edge540 wrote:: again...

Just curious Jack, as a conservative republican, how do YOU feel about gay marriage?

We've already been over this extensively, edge.

happy jack wrote:: I'm perfectly fine with gay marriage.

happy jack wrote:: I was OK with it long before Obama told you and the others on this board that you had been granted permission to be OK with it.

happy jack wrote:: I've never been one to either seek to ban gay marriage, nor to actively advocate in favor of it. It is something that has no effect on me either way so, again, I did not put a lot of energy into worrying about it one way or the other.

That's great!
Good to see you and Barry agreeing on this issue.

Too bad the ~~bigots~~ people you vote for, still have a problem with it.

Yes, it is.
And it's also too bad the ~~bigot~~ President you voted for had a problem with it, but you voted for him anyway.

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happy jack wrote:

edge540 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

edge540 wrote:: again...

Just curious Jack, as a conservative republican, how do YOU feel about gay marriage?

We've already been over this extensively, edge.

happy jack wrote:: I'm perfectly fine with gay marriage.

happy jack wrote:: I was OK with it long before Obama told you and the others on this board that you had been granted permission to be OK with it.

happy jack wrote:: I've never been one to either seek to ban gay marriage, nor to actively advocate in favor of it. It is something that has no effect on me either way so, again, I did not put a lot of energy into worrying about it one way or the other.

That's great!
Good to see you and Barry agreeing on this issue.

Too bad the ~~bigots~~ people you vote for, still have a problem with it.

Yes, it is.
And it's also too bad the ~~bigot~~ President you voted for had a problem with it, but you voted for him anyway.

Yes I did.
Too bad you're still going to vote for the bigots, I'm not.

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edge540 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

edge540 wrote:

happy jack wrote:

edge540 wrote:: again...

Just curious Jack, as a conservative republican, how do YOU feel about gay marriage?

We've already been over this extensively, edge.

happy jack wrote:: I'm perfectly fine with gay marriage.

happy jack wrote:: I was OK with it long before Obama told you and the others on this board that you had been granted permission to be OK with it.

happy jack wrote:: I've never been one to either seek to ban gay marriage, nor to actively advocate in favor of it. It is something that has no effect on me either way so, again, I did not put a lot of energy into worrying about it one way or the other.

That's great!
Good to see you and Barry agreeing on this issue.

Too bad the ~~bigots~~ people you vote for, still have a problem with it.

Yes, it is.
And it's also too bad the ~~bigot~~ President you voted for had a problem with it, but you voted for him anyway.

Yes I did.
Too bad you're still going to vote for the bigots, I'm not.

Which bigots am I going to vote for?

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happy jack wrote:: Which bigots am I going to vote for?

Whatever republican runs for president in 2016 or just about any republican for that matter in any election.

BTW, Mike is pissed at people like you and that you should "grow a spine."

GOP Civil War: Huckabee Demands Republicans "Grow A Spine" And Oppose Marriage Equality

http://mediamatters.org/blog/2014/10/12/gop-civil-war-huckabee-demands-republicans-grow/201128

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edge540 wrote:

happy jack wrote:: Which bigots am I going to vote for?

Whatever republican runs for president in 2016 or just about any republican for that matter in any election.

Let's try this one more time - which bigots am I going to vote for?

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happy jack wrote:

edge540 wrote:

happy jack wrote:: Which bigots am I going to vote for?

Whatever republicans run for president in 2016 or just about any republican for that matter in any election.

Let's try this one more time - which bigots am I going to vote for?

Like I said:
Whatever republican runs for president in 2016 or just about any republican for that matter in any election.

What part of that do you not understand?

Here ya go, take your pick:
https://www.gop.com/presidential-straw-poll/

So ~~which bigot~~ who do you like?
Out of all those clowns there is only one that I know of, Rob Portman who supports gay marriage and there ain't no effing way he'll be the nominee in 2016. Shit, I doubt if he's even going to run.

Please enjoy:
Republican National Committee reaffirms opposition to gay marriage

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2013/04/12/republican-national-committee-reaffirms-opposition-to-gay-marriage/