A comprehensive Wonk Room survey of the Republican candidates for the U.S. Senate finds that nearly all dispute the scientific consensus that the United States must act to fight global warming pollution. In May, 2010, the National Academies of Science reported to Congress that “the U.S. should act now to reduce greenhouse gas emissions and develop a national strategy to adapt to the inevitable impacts of climate change” because global warming is “caused largely by human activities, and poses significant risks for — and in many cases is already affecting — a broad range of human and natural systems.”This finding is shared by scientific bodies around the world. However, in the alternate reality of the fossil-fueled right wing, climate science is confused or a conspiracy, and policies to limit pollution would destroy the economy.Remarkably, of the dozens of Republicans vying for the 37 Senate seats in the 2010 election, only one — Rep. Mike Castle of Delaware — supports climate action. Even former climate advocates Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) and Rep. Mark Kirk (R-IL) now toe the science-doubting party line.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 9/13/2010, 7:35 pm
Only in it for the gold. Unless you're funded by the oil industry. That's perfectly acceptable.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 9/14/2010, 10:21 pm
We'll have plenty of opportunities for that during the 2012 Republican Presidential Debates considering how far to the right they've gone. I always look forward to the moment when the moderator asks the candidates to raise their hand if they don't believe in evolution.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 9/15/2010, 9:42 am
And speaking of retarded nonsense, Geocentrists have an upcoming conference in South Bend in November. 'Cause remember, all those heliocentrists are just in it for the gold. Between this and AGW, it's the only way NASA gets any funding... right, BWG?
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 9/29/2010, 5:49 pm
The people behind the new study start by asking a pretty obvious question: "Why do members of the public disagree—sharply and persistently—about facts on which expert scientists largely agree?" (Elsewhere, they refer to the "intense political contestation over empirical issues on which technical experts largely agree.") In this regard, the numbers from the Pew survey are pretty informative. Ninety-seven percent of the members of the American Association for the Advancement of Science accept the evidence for evolution, but at least 40 percent of the public thinks that major differences remain in scientific opinion on this topic. Clearly, the scientific community isn't succeeding in making the public aware of its opinion.
According to the new study, this isn't necessarily the fault of the scientists, though. The authors favor a model, called the cultural cognition of risk, which "refers to the tendency of individuals to form risk perceptions that are congenial to their values." This wouldn't apply directly to evolution, but would to climate change: if your cultural values make you less likely to accept the policy implications of our current scientific understanding, then you'll be less likely to accept the science.
But, as the authors note, opponents of a scientific consensus often try to claim to be opposing it on scientific, rather than cultural grounds. "Public debates rarely feature open resistance to science," they note, "the parties to such disputes are much more likely to advance diametrically opposed claims about what the scientific evidence really shows." To get there, those doing the arguing must ultimately be selective about what evidence and experts they accept—they listen to, and remember, those who tell them what they want to hear. "The cultural cognition thesis predicts that individuals will more readily recall instances of experts taking the position that is consistent with their cultural predisposition than ones taking positions inconsistent with it," the paper suggests.
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So, it's not just a matter of the public not understanding the expert opinions of places like the National Academies of science; they simply discount the expertise associated with any opinion they'd rather not hear.
No surprise there.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 11/20/2010, 8:08 pm
Former Republican Representative Sherwood Boehlert is equally dismayed by his party's unfounded attacks on science:
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Why do so many Republican senators and representatives think they are right and the world's top scientific academies and scientists are wrong? I would like to be able to chalk it up to lack of information or misinformation.
I can understand arguments over proposed policy approaches to climate change. I served in Congress for 24 years. I know these are legitimate areas for debate. What I find incomprehensible is the dogged determination by some to discredit distinguished scientists and their findings.
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There is a natural aversion to more government regulation. But that should be included in the debate about how to respond to climate change, not as an excuse to deny the problem's existence. The current practice of disparaging the science and the scientists only clouds our understanding and delays a solution. The record flooding, droughts and extreme weather in this country and others are consistent with patterns that scientists predicted for years. They are an ominous harbinger.
The new Congress should have a policy debate to address facts rather than a debate featuring unsubstantiated attacks on science. We shouldn't stand by while the reputations of scientists are dragged through the mud in order to win a political argument. And no member of any party should look the other way when the basic operating parameters of scientific inquiry - the need to question, express doubt, replicate research and encourage curiosity - are exploited for the sake of political expediency. My fellow Republicans should understand that wholesale, ideologically based or special-interest-driven rejection of science is bad policy. And that in the long run, it's also bad politics.
What is happening to the party of Ronald Reagan? He embraced scientific understanding of the environment and pollution and was proud of his role in helping to phase out ozone-depleting chemicals. That was smart policy and smart politics. Most important, unlike many who profess to be his followers, Reagan didn't deny the existence of global environmental problems but instead found ways to address them.
It's short and worth reading in full.
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 11/21/2010, 7:31 am
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Why do so many Republican senators and representatives think they are right and the world's top scientific academies and scientists are wrong? I would like to be able to chalk it up to lack of information or misinformation.
I believe they are told to march in lockstep to their talking points. How else can anyone explain how every single Repub votes the same way on an issue. That rarely,if ever,happens on the Dem side.
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I can understand arguments over proposed policy approaches to climate change. I served in Congress for 24 years. I know these are legitimate areas for debate. What I find incomprehensible is the dogged determination by some to discredit distinguished scientists and their findings.
It's called "red meat" for the cranks that believe in creation and not evolution.
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My fellow Republicans should understand that wholesale, ideologically based or special-interest-driven rejection of science is bad policy. And that in the long run, it's also bad politics.
Yeah,well not reaching out to minorities is bad politics too,but that hasn't stopped them.
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What is happening to the party of Ronald Reagan? He embraced scientific understanding of the environment and pollution and was proud of his role in helping to phase out ozone-depleting chemicals.
There would be no place for Reagan in today's Repub party.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 11/25/2010, 9:32 am
For the next mental midget who says Al Gore invented global warming. It's easily debunked nonsense, but here's a rebuttal presented in video since they have such an aversion to reading:
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 11/30/2010, 12:55 am
The economic consequences of our global warming denialism:
Thanks, skeptics, for our continued falling scientific literacy, innovation, and competitiveness!
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 12/1/2010, 7:30 pm
he 2009 State of the Climate report released today draws on data for 10 key climate indicators that all point to the same finding: the scientific evidence that our world is warming is unmistakable. More than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries contributed to the report, which confirms that the past decade was the warmest on record and that the Earth has been growing warmer over the last 50 years.
Based on comprehensive data from multiple sources, the report defines 10 measurable planet-wide features used to gauge global temperature changes. The relative movement of each of these indicators proves consistent with a warming world. Seven indicators are rising: air temperature over land, sea-surface temperature, air temperature over oceans, sea level, ocean heat, humidity and tropospheric temperature in the “active-weather” layer of the atmosphere closest to the Earth’s surface. Three indicators are declining: Arctic sea ice, glaciers and spring snow cover in the Northern hemisphere.
One hundred and sixty research groups across 48 countries... Again, such a massive international conspiracy makes the Twoofers look sane by comparison. And I just heard Limbaugh the other day, "It snowed in winter! We knew it was bogus!" F**king morons...
Artie60438
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 12/16/2010, 10:07 am
Heretic (Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:42 am) wrote:
And I just heard Limbaugh the other day, "It snowed in winter! We knew it was bogus!" F**king morons...
It makes me want to :barf: every time I hear one of these idiots blow off global warning because temperatures were below normal for a week or two.
Scorpion
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 12/16/2010, 4:18 pm
he 2009 State of the Climate report released today draws on data for 10 key climate indicators that all point to the same finding: the scientific evidence that our world is warming is unmistakable. More than 300 scientists from 160 research groups in 48 countries contributed to the report, which confirms that the past decade was the warmest on record and that the Earth has been growing warmer over the last 50 years.
Based on comprehensive data from multiple sources, the report defines 10 measurable planet-wide features used to gauge global temperature changes. The relative movement of each of these indicators proves consistent with a warming world. Seven indicators are rising: air temperature over land, sea-surface temperature, air temperature over oceans, sea level, ocean heat, humidity and tropospheric temperature in the “active-weather” layer of the atmosphere closest to the Earth’s surface. Three indicators are declining: Arctic sea ice, glaciers and spring snow cover in the Northern hemisphere.
One hundred and sixty research groups across 48 countries... Again, such a massive international conspiracy makes the Twoofers look sane by comparison. And I just heard Limbaugh the other day, "It snowed in winter! We knew it was bogus!" F**king morons...
Wow! You mean that global warming didn't stop in 1998?
But seriously, I had a feeling when you put up a graph of the Arctic sea ice extent a couple of years back that we had reached the "tipping point." I remember at the time that we both hoped that it was just an anomaly, but it sure doesn't look like it was, does it?
sparks
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 12/19/2010, 1:36 pm
http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012180005 This week, we reported on a staff email from Fox News Washington managing editor Bill Sammon questioning the "veracity of climate change data" and directing the network's journalists to "refrain from asserting that the planet has warmed (or cooled) in any given period without IMMEDIATELY pointing out that such theories are based upon data that critics have called into question." While it's easy for anyone with a functioning brain to realize that AGW is a very serious threat, it's hard to get that message out and build public support for the change that is needed when one of the major media outlets in the US continues to lie about the issue so that a few major corporations can continue to profit from destroying the climate.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 12/21/2010, 10:02 am
Nice to see that's getting little to no play in the American "liberal" media (is that myth dead yet?). The only coverage of that I've seen outside of Media Matters was at the Guardian. *sigh*
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 12/21/2010, 10:06 am
I've so glad the US Military doesn't drink from the same Kool-Aid as Republicans.
PRINCETON, NJ -- Four in 10 Americans, slightly fewer today than in years past, believe God created humans in their present form about 10,000 years ago. Thirty-eight percent believe God guided a process by which humans developed over millions of years from less advanced life forms, while 16%, up slightly from years past, believe humans developed over millions of years, without God's involvement.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 2/22/2011, 9:27 am
Institutional investors need to shift 40% of their portfolios into climate-sensitive sectors, including infrastructure and agriculture, to safeguard returns against the impact of global warming, according to consultant Mercer.
Mercer is the biggest investment consultant in the world. Its approach, backed in a report by global institutions managing $2 trillion, marks a radical shift of attitude towards climate change by institutions from governance to mainstream investment thinking.
Its 40% recommendation, designed to preserve a 7% a year return, is the result of a sophisticated investment modelling technique that Mercer will introduce to its clients this year. Using advice from the Grantham Research Institute, it has calculated that weather extremes, for example leading to floods and food shortages, could contribute 10% to portfolio risk by 2030.
It'll be interesting to see if/how skeptics attempt to spin this. These aren't climate model predictions, but market analyses on how its already being affected by the real world consequences of AGW. Increased droughts, floods, food shortages, high energy prices, war...
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 3/1/2011, 10:43 am
More on the disconnect between Republicans and reality:
The National Weather Service’s Seasonal Drought Outlook is another reminder of what we can expect more of going forward as the planet warms.
Ironically, those parts of the US most susceptible to drought seem to be disproportionately represented by Congressmen who don’t believe in global climate change, who wish to defund government efforts to measure, understand, predict, and mitigate the effects, as a ‘waste of money’, but nevertheless are first in line to make sure their district takes advantage of taxpayer relief for the ongoing agricultural disasters in their districts.
Chris Mooney examined this paradox over at Desmogblog:
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So here is the strange summation: Ralph Hall represents a state and district suffering from (and highly vulnerable to) drought; global warming is expected to worsen drought risks for Texas and Hall’s district; Hall questions the science of global warming; Hall leads his party in an effort to block funding for a climate service that would help his district, and many other regions, assess their vulnerability and prepare for a changing climate.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 3/15/2011, 9:08 am
Video of Rear Admiral David W. Titley, US Navy Chief Oceanographer (and former skeptic) from a recent TEDxPentagon event:
Part 2:
And on handling skeptics:
He's much nicer than I am.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 3/15/2011, 9:15 am
We still scoff at naturalists today. We also tend to forget how much we benefit from their work. Since this is the final column in this series about how the discovery of species has changed our lives, let me put it as plainly as possible: Were it not for the work of naturalists, you and I would probably be dead. Or if alive, we would be far likelier to be crippled, in pain, or otherwise incapacitated.
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But our debt to the naturalists also takes more conventional form: Roughly half our medicines come directly from the natural world, or get manufactured synthetically based on discoveries from nature. The list includes aspirin (originally from the willow tree), almost all our antibiotics (from fungi that evolved in nature, not a Petri dish), and many of our most effective cancer treatments. I can remember a pale girl in second grade going off to die of lymphoma or leukemia; children with those diseases almost always died then. Now they routinely live, because of drugs developed from the Madagascar rosy periwinkle, a flowering plant. Many patients with lung, breast, uterine, and other cancers also now recover because in 1962 a botanist named Arthur S. Barclay collected samples of the Pacific yew tree, leading to the development of the anticancer drug Taxol. For those who think natural resources should stand or fall based on their current cash value, yew trees would have been basically worthless in 1961. But today, according to industry analysts IMS Health, Taxol is a $1.7 billion-a-year product.
An interesting article, the final of an eight part series that can be read in its entirety here.
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 4/2/2011, 3:55 pm
This is fun. A collection of flip flops on global warming from some of the GOP Presidential hopefuls:
So as a service to GOP voters preparing their early 2012 crib sheets, here is a quick-and-dirty look--in six parts, with video and links--of how this year's potential candidates have approached the carbon issue:
I don't really know who to blame for this kind of stupidity. At the core, it's simple lies to get elected. Their base is science starved and retarded, so much so that merely acknowledging the problem will ruin any chance of getting elected. But their voters are only so ignorant thanks to the constant blaring of "it's a conspiracy" from Fox News and the conservative media, the idiots above included. Wherever it started, its a self reinforcing cycle of stupidity now, regardless. The GOP could break the chain if they were merely lying to get elected where they could actually address the problem once in office, but we all know that's not the case. Despicable liars the lot of 'em.
UrRight
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 4/3/2011, 3:15 pm
Darn, Heretic. Did you ever consider that "that dust will be there...LOOOONG after I'm gone? "
My gram told me at age 90 when people in the family caught her digging worms instead of cleaning the house.
The house is still there and new in-direct relatives need a "lashing".
Heretic
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Subject: Re: Anthropogenic Global Warming 101 4/3/2011, 3:55 pm
UrRight wrote:
Darn, Heretic. Did you ever consider that "that dust will be there...LOOOONG after I'm gone?"
What does that even mean? That we're immune to various biological laws and physics or that such biological collapses from said violations simply don't matter because the rock we inhabit is old?
Do you ever consider that "the dust will be there long after I'm gone?" in all your crazy ramblings on the dangers of minorities?