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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty2/26/2014, 9:11 am

Let's look at the bright side. The average IQ in Michigan just went up.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty6/18/2014, 2:33 pm

Tales of "responsible law abiding gun owners"...
Georgia man accidentally shoots his own penis while trying to holster gun
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A man in Macon, Georgia accidentally shot himself in the penis while attempting to holster his gun last week.

According to WMAZ Channel 13, the man was parked at a gas station and was attempting to put away the .45 caliber pistol when it discharged, striking him in the groin.

The man immediately drove to a friend’s house. According to police, the victim dropped his pants to find that he had shot himself in the penis and that the bullet had exited his body through the buttocks. As he disrobed, the spent round fell to the floor.

The victim was driven to the Coliseum Northside hospital by a friend, then transferred to the Medical Center of Central Georgia.

Death and Taxes reported in January of 2013 that at least five American men have shot off their penises since 2010.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty7/17/2014, 3:42 pm

Morons with Guns
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I don't care where you are in the gun debate.

I don't. Second amendment yourself off. Grind away at it. Whatever floats your boat. Stockpile rusty meat cleavers and AR-15s. Whatever.

But for the love of God......can we at LEAST have a civil discussion about idiots?

This morning a gas station I pass by WAY TOO OFTENwas robbed by a masked dude who wanted the petty amount of cash in the drawer and several cartons of cigarettes. Supposedly he had a revolver on him, but he used both hands to empty the money drawer into a bag, so if he did have it it wasn't in his hand. Whatever. At least the asshole had the good sense not to discharge the thing.

Criminal asshole dude then led the clerk to a room to get cartons of cigarettes, at which point the clerk pulled out a gun and fired TEN ROUNDS at the guy robbing the gas station as the thief fled like a bat out of a Dick Cheney interview. Never seen a man run so fast as in the gas station video.

So Heroic Clerk is going BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM BLAM out the window of the damned convenience store RIGHT INTO what's normally A VERY BUSY street. Rambo style...BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM...spraying bullets into the street. Whether the moron-cigarette-thief was hit is not clear. He made off with the smokes and the cash. What's clear, though, is Hero Clerk was just firing willy nilly into Henry Street, which.....frankly....I drive down EVERY GOD DAMNED DAY with my kids.

And of course all the gun nuts are praising the Hero Clerk for sticking up for his boss's stash of Newports and their smooth, smooth flavor. Never mind the hundreds of folks who pass by that place early in the morning, many of whom are taking their kids to daycare....any one of whom could have taken a bullet in the head.

Meanwhile there are about ten unaccounted for chunks of lead that flew down Henry street, all in the name of saving an armful of Basic's menthol 100s. Thanks GOD for some...you know...sense of justice.

Hopefully future thieves don't catch wise and next time don't just blow away the clerk first thing before stuffing their pants full of Kools.

Muskegon has way too many gun deaths involving innocent bystanders just walking down the damn street in the wrong neighborhood at the wrong time. Who the hell knows who the intended targets and motives were or if most of these deaths were just poor bastards in the wrong place when some asshole started spraying high velocity lead into the street.

All this talk of Good Guys with guns and BAD guys with guns. Fuck you. What about the guy just walking down the damn street to get a gallon of milk for his kids?

Stick that shit in your second amendment and smoke it and its sweet, smooth Virginia flavor.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty7/30/2014, 1:50 pm

"86 yr old Good guy with gun" helps criminal almost elude police...Concealed carry shooting reignites debate
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An 86-year-old man who attempted to help police foil an armed robbery at a Crestwood phone store by firing at the fleeing suspect may not have broken the law, but firearms trainers say he ignored a basic rule of carrying a gun in public: Don't try to be a hero.

The man, who has a permit to carry a concealed gun in Illinois, won't face charges for firing two shots outside an AT&T store in Crestwood, according to the Cook County state's attorney's office. A police officer pursuing the suspect had to duck for cover, not knowing where the shots were coming from, Crestwood police said. No one was injured.

Officials refused to identify the permit holder involved in the incident Saturday but described him as a "model citizen" in the southwest suburban Cook County village of 11,000 residents.

"We don't want people to take the law into their own hands and start chasing suspects. The risk and probability are much higher that you will hit an innocent bystander if you try to be a hero," said Andre Queen, owner of Fidelity Investigative Training Academy in Chicago. "Or the permit holder could be shot by the police mistaking him as a bad guy."

According to a statement issued by Crestwood police, the permit holder was about to enter the store at 4756 W. Cal-Sag Road around noon when he noticed that it was being robbed, the man told police.

The man stayed outside to prevent anyone from entering the store, the statement said. When he saw the suspect leaving through a back door, he entered the store and ran after him.

Police did not say whether the man called 911 but did say that several people outside the store flagged down an officer. When the officer spotted someone running from the rear of the building with a large duffel bag and a gun in his hand, he started chasing him. That's when the officer heard gunshots, police said.

"Since the officer did not know where the shots were fired from, he was forced to terminate his foot pursuit and take cover for his own safety," the statement said.

No one was hit by the two shots fired by the 86-year-old man. Later, the robbery suspect, 17-year-old Demetrius Merrill, of Chicago, was apprehended after he ran from the woods along the Cal-Sag Canal, police said. Merrill was charged with armed robbery and held in lieu of $1 million bail. Inside the duffel bag, police said, they found more than $44,000 worth of merchandise, including 53 iPhones.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty8/27/2014, 5:31 pm

edge540 wrote:
We need more gunz!

9-year-old girl accidentally shoots instructor with Uzi

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/08/26/girl-kills-shooting-instructor-9-year-old-uzi/14655263/#
LMAO! Teaching a 9ry old how to shoot an Uzi?
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty8/27/2014, 7:55 pm

It's not the first time gun lunatics have have let kids fire a full auto weapon.
Fucking idiots.
Boy Accidentally Kills Himself With Uzi
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-accidentally-kills-himself-with-uzi/
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty8/27/2014, 10:04 pm

edge540 wrote:
It's not the first time gun lunatics have have let kids fire a full auto weapon.
Fucking idiots.
Boy Accidentally Kills Himself With Uzi
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/boy-accidentally-kills-himself-with-uzi/
IMO,Any parent who lets a child under 12 near a fully automatic weapon should get a visit from family & social services. Putting a child in an unnecessary dangerous situation is child abuse.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty10/1/2014, 9:59 pm

Gun nuts’ tragic confusion: Why “open carry” groups don’t get police brutality

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After finally being allowed to view the video of the police shooting of a man in an Ohio Wal-Mart, it’s very hard for any reasonable person to conclude that the authorities acted responsibly. They appear not to have given him any chance to drop the toy gun in his hand before shooting him. It’s possible that they were persuaded by the frightened 911 caller that they were entering a deadly situation, but there’s no evidence they heard anything but a description and location of a black man with an afro, wearing jeans and a T-shirt carrying a rifle and threatening people in Wal-Mart. An Ohio grand jury seems to have thought that it was reasonable for police in that situation to shoot first and ask questions later.

LGF linked to this, asking a very important question I'd not thought of:  In an “Open Carry” State Like Ohio, Why Was John Crawford Shot by Police in Wal-Mart?  It's an easy answer, however.  

And this is why I think this whole mess is stupid.  Until a shooter puts a bullet through someone's brain, there's no way to tell.  In which case the dead merely become sacrifices so that jackamo's like the one in the link above can parade around in front of a school pretending they're Rambo holding the terrorists at bay.

I also can't figure out why the guy who called 911 on Crawford isn't in jail.  False informing, plain and simple.  He reported Crawford was threatening people, pointing the gun at people, all felonies in addition to being life threatening situations, all of which are known not to have happened since the entire thing is on video, which means he made the whole thing up.  Given the potential lethal response by police (actual in this case), I don't see that any different to calling in a bomb threat or yelling "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty10/17/2014, 4:31 pm

Another storybook ending for as idiot who decided to stand his ground...
Oh How Sad, Michael Dunn Is Going To Prison For Life. Wait, Did We Say ‘Sad’?
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Michael Dunn, convicted last month for the murder of 17-year-old Jordan Davis, was sentenced today to life in prison with no chance of parole. Since prosecutors did not seek the death penalty in Dunn’s first-degree murder trial, the conviction carried a mandatory life sentence. Judge Russell Healey told the would be ground-stander:

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   Mr. Dunn, your life is effectively over. What is sad, is that this case exemplifies that our society seems to have lost its way.

Or maybe it’s just a sign that a substantial segment of this society got exactly what it wanted when it passed laws encouraging Responsible Gun Owners to administer their very own 9-millimeter justice when they see fit, because after all, when seconds count, the police are just minutes away, and our society has always been about dishing out violence to black boys.

Dunn shot Davis to death at a Jacksonville, Florida, convenience store after an argument about loud music, when he thought he saw a gun, or at least four scary black teenagers, inside the SUV Davis was sitting in. No gun was found, and after the killing, Dunn drove off to a motel and ordered pizza. He only called 911 after returning home to Satellite Beach and hearing on the radio that police were investigating the killing.

In February, Dunn was convicted of three counts of attempted murder for firing at the other three kids in the SUV, but the jury deadlocked on the charge of murder for the victim who actually died.

At his sentencing hearing today, Dunn apologized to Davis’s parents, although as a gun-wielding sociopath, he also had to mention that he still considered himself to have acted in self-defense in killing their son:

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   “I want the Davis family to know that I truly regret what happened. If I could roll back time and do things differently, I would,” he said. “I am mortified that I took a life whether it was a justified or not.”

That’s awfully considerate of him.

Davis’s mother, Lucia McBath, explained that she had instilled values of love and forgiveness in Jordan, and added, “Therefore, I too must be willing to forgive and so I choose to forgive you Mr. Dunn for taking my son’s life.” We guess she is a way better person than we are. Actually, we knew that already. Go read Ta-Nehisi Coates’s conversations with Lucia McBath, the first published during Dunn’s first trial, and a follow-up that ran shortly after Dunn’s conviction in the second trial.

And now, let’s remember Jordan Davis and his parents’ loss, and never give the pathetic nothing of a human being Michael Dunn much thought again, except to hope that his conviction will stop some of the morons who think they need to be ready at all times to blow away the bad guys. Or black kids listening to music.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty10/26/2014, 7:14 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/26/opinion/sunday/do-black-people-have-equal-gun-rights.html?ref=opinion


Do Black People Have Equal Gun Rights?


By CHARLES C. W. COOKE
OCT. 25, 2014

CONVENTIONAL wisdom holds that firearms are the preserve of conservative white men. You would never know this at my local shooting range, which happens to be in a majority African-American area, and has a clientele that reflects that fact. There, as a white man, I’m often in the minority; just one more guy who likes to fire weapons — another person to chat to and share stories with. It is, I’d venture, how things should be.
By rights, the Second Amendment should serve as a totem of African-Americans’ full citizenship and enfranchisement. For centuries, firearms have been indispensable to black liberation: as crucial a defense against tyranny for Frederick Douglass and Martin Luther King Jr. as for Sam Adams and George Washington. Today, however, many black Americans have a decidedly mixed relationship with the right to bear arms.
In August, as the outrage over the police shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Mo., dominated the news, an African-American group calling itself the Huey P. Newton Gun Club took to the streets of Dallas, rifles in hand, to protest. Local businesses were supportive, and the city’s police chief confirmed in a statement that his department “supports the constitutional rights of all.” On Twitter, the hashtag #blackopencarry prompted a warm response from conservatives.
And yet, that same month, a 22-year-old black man named John Crawford III was shot dead by the police in an Ohio Walmart after a white customer claimed excitedly that a man was pointing a gun at his fellow patrons. Later, the store’s security footage revealed that Mr. Crawford had been holding a BB gun that he had picked up in the sporting goods department, and that the caller’s testimony had been wrong. Ohio is an open carry state. That didn’t make much difference for Mr. Crawford.
Until around 1970, the aims of America’s firearms restrictionists and the aims of America’s racists were practically inextricable. In both the colonial and immediate post-Revolutionary periods, the first laws regulating gun ownership were aimed squarely at blacks and Native Americans. In both the Massachusetts and Plymouth colonies, it was illegal for the colonists to sell guns to natives, while Virginia and Tennessee banned gun ownership by free blacks.
In the antebellum period, the chief justice of the United States, Roger B. Taney, wrote a grave warning into the heart of the execrable Dred Scott decision. If blacks were permitted to become citizens, Taney cautioned, they, like whites, would have full liberty to “keep and carry arms wherever they went.”
White Southerners would eventually be forced to accept blacks as their fellow citizens. But old habits died hard. After the Civil War, many Southern states enacted Black Codes to prohibit ownership of guns by blacks. The measures served their purpose. In her remarkable 1892 disquisition on the evils of lynching, the writer Ida B. Wells noted that “the only times an Afro-American who was assaulted got away has been when he had a gun and used it in self-defense.” Wells offered some blunt advice: “a Winchester rifle should have a place of honor in every black home, and it should be used for that protection which the law refuses to give.”
At the height of the civil rights movement, black freedom fighters took Wells’s counsel seriously. Although he was denied a concealed-carry permit, the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had what his adviser Glenn E. Smiley described as a veritable “arsenal” at home.
Far from being a digression from the principle of nonviolence, this willingness to defend oneself was heir to a long, proud tradition. Considering in 1850 what he believed to be the best response to the Fugitive Slave Act, Frederick Douglass proposed: “a good revolver.”
The first major ban on the open carrying of firearms — a Republican-led bill that was drafted after Black Panthers began hanging around the State Legislature in Sacramento with their guns on display — was signed in 1967 by none other than Gov. Ronald Reagan of California. The federal Gun Control Act of 1968 was primarily a reaction to the scourge of “Saturday night specials” — cheap handguns owned by the poor and the black. TheNational Rifle Association opposed neither law.
So the fact that one of the seminal Second Amendment cases in American history is named for a black plaintiff is a beautiful and moving thing indeed.McDonald v. Chicago, argued in 2010, was brought by Otis McDonald, a 76-year-old black man tired of watching his neighborhood give way to crime and gang warfare. The Supreme Court ruled 5 to 4 that the Second Amendment applied not just to all people, but to the states as well as to the federal government, and that Chicago was therefore not permitted to prohibit Mr. McDonald from keeping a handgun for his defense.
Yet African-American activists typically refrain from involvement in the issue of gun rights. In October 2013, Shaneen Allen, 27, a black single mother of two, was arrested in New Jersey for carrying a firearm without a license (she was under the impression that her Pennsylvania concealed-carry permit was accepted across state lines), and threatened with a prison sentence of up to 11 years for her mistake.
But it was conservative publications, such as my own National Review, and the N.R.A. that came to her defense. The N.A.A.C.P. and the usual champions remained unusually quiet. (There was no news conference featuring the Rev. Al Sharpton.) They have been largely absent, too, from the case of Marissa Alexander, a black Florida woman given a 20-year sentence for firing a warning shot near her abusive husband.
It’s a problem of perception, an assumption that the Second Amendment is the province of whites, that cuts both ways. In 2009, as the first Tea Partyrallies swept the country, Contessa Brewer of MSNBC showed a video of a man at an anti-Obamacare rally with a pistol on his hip and suggested that “there are questions about whether this has racial overtones ... white people showing up with guns.” Later, it came out that the man in the video was actually black.
At least 15 percent of African-Americans report that they own guns — about the same rate as all other “nonwhites.” But as anybody who has attended an N.R.A. convention can attest, there is a gaping hole in the organization’s membership. Look around the convention center and you will see plenty of women, a good number of Asians and Hispanics, and even a smattering of children. Blacks? Not so much.
This is a tremendous shame. It is one thing for the N.R.A. to celebrate black Second Amendment advocates such as its spokesman Colion Noir, and Sheriff David A. Clarke Jr. of Milwaukee County, but it is quite another for Wayne LaPierre to inveigh against “home invaders, drug cartels, carjackers, knockout gamers, and rapers, and haters,” and for the camera to then pan around a sea of white faces clapping in unison.
Malcolm X may have a deservedly mixed reputation, but the famous photograph of him standing at the window, rifle in hand, insisting on black liberation “by any means necessary,” is about as American as it gets. It should be celebrated just like the “Don’t tread on me” Gadsden flag. By not making that connection, the movement is losing touch with one of its greatest triumphs and forsaking a prime illustration of why its cause is so just and so crucial.
If supporters of the right to keep and bear arms want their pleas to be heard in their proper context, they might consider talking a little less about Valley Forge and a little more about Jim Crow — and attempting to fill their ranks with people who have known much more recently what tyranny really looks like.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty12/10/2014, 11:23 am

Exactly as I've said before.

Sacrifices to the Second Amendment

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The gun lobby acknowledges the problem of mass-shooting incidents in the United States. Its solution calls for arming more people who could potentially stop a shooter and for rapid-response training focused on minimizing casualties. This is part of an increasingly pervasive, insidious gun culture that accepts mass shootings as inevitable. But by this logic, the first victims—friends, loved ones, children—are expendable. The first victims of a mass shooting are a mangled human sacrifice on the altar of Second Amendment rights.

Until a shooter pulls the trigger to begin his slaughter, he is merely a guy with a gun. The gun lobby insists that the government should allow people to carry firearms into all public places. (Gun advocates continued to push for expanded open-carry legislation the morning after the Tallahassee shooting.) After all, who are we to judge a man simply because he is proudly displaying a gun by his side? In this world, the first victim is merely an alarm for others to respond.

. . .

With reasonable preventative measures off the table, gun advocates are making it easy for violent or unstable individuals to access and use firearms in acts of mass violence. In arming bystanders as a solution, the NRA and other pro-gun groups are simply telling first victims and their loved ones that their lives are worth less than gun owners having to consent to a basic background check. For the rest of the victims, well, you had a chance to arm yourselves.
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2-year-old accidentally kills his mom in Wal-Mart
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HAYDEN, Idaho (AP) — A 2-year-old boy accidentally shot and killed his mother after he reached into her purse at a northern Idaho Wal-Mart and her concealed gun fired, authorities said Tuesday.

Veronica J. Rutledge, 29, was shopping with her son and three other children, Kootenai County sheriff's spokesman Stu Miller said. Rutledge was from Blackfoot in southeastern Idaho, and her family had come to the area to visit relatives.

She had a concealed weapons permit. Miller said the young boy was left in a shopping cart, reached into his mother's purse and grabbed a small-caliber handgun, which discharged one time.

Deputies who responded to the Wal-Mart found Rutledge dead, the sheriff's office said.
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The victim's father-in-law, Terry Rutledge, told The Associated Press that Veronica Rutledge "was a beautiful, young, loving mother."

"She was not the least bit irresponsible," Terry Rutledge said.
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Sorry dude but leaving your gun accessible to a 2yr old is the height of irresponsibility.
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http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-1-dead-in-shooting-at-gage-park-business-20151031-story.html

Police: Customer with concealed carry license kills robber; 6 wounded in other shootings

Jeremy Gorner, Gregory Pratt and Megan CrepeauContact ReportersChicago Tribune

A robbery was thwarted at a Southwest Side corner store Saturday night when a patron with a concealed carry license shot and killed an armed robber, authorities said.
The dead man has been identified as Reginald Gildersleeve, 55, of the 5000 block of South California Avenue, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office. Gildersleeve was pronounced dead on the scene at 7:10 p.m., according to the medical examiner's office. An autopsy is slated for Sunday.
Citing preliminary information, police said a man walked into a store around 7 p.m. in the 2700 block of West 51st Street in the Gage Park neighborhood on the Southwest Side, announced a robbery to an employee working behind the counter and displayed a handgun.
Another employee came from the back of the store and the gunman pointed his weapon at her, police said. He then made her go to the back of the store, which also serves as a currency exchange.
After that, a customer who was also inside the business pulled out a gun and opened fire at the robber, killing him, police said. Police initially said the robber was possibly in his 40s.
Police said the shooter has a valid concealed carry license and a valid firearm owner's identification card.


A tragedy.
A damned tragedy.
More gun laws are definitely in order.
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Georgia toddler accidently shoots and kills self with gun left on bed: reports
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A toddler shot and killed himself Tuesday night with a gun left on a bed at his Acworth, Ga., home, according to local reports.

The unidentified 2-year-old boy was alone in the bedroom when authorities said he found the gun and pulled the trigger at around 7:30 p.m., the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported.

“We don’t know if he was playing with the gun or not, but he got hold of a handgun and shot himself,” Acworth Police spokeswoman Officer Yolanda Leverette told the newspaper.

The child’s father and brother, 4, were home at the time of the shooting, but not the mother.

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So far this year 582 children under the age of 11 have died from gun-related injuries. Another 2,151 children ages 12 – 17 have also been killed by guns. Those numbers don’t include the thousands of children who survive gunshot injuries every year in the U.S.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2015/10/28/two-year-old-dies-loaded-shotgun-babysitter-daycare-video/
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Did Colorado's Open Carry Law Delay Police Response to a Mass Shooter?

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Details are continuing to emerge about a gun rampage that took place in the streets of Colorado Springs on Saturday morning, in which 33-year-old Noah Harpham shot three people to death before police killed him in a shootout. On Monday, a troubling detail came to light in a Denver Post report suggesting that police may have had a chance to intervene before the slaughter began—but that a police dispatcher may have reacted without urgency to a 911 call about Harpham because of Colorado's open carry law.

The dead are totes worth the shooter's freedom to murder unimpeded.

Because Constitution and Baby Jesus.
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Domestic Terrorist Tries to Bomb Walmart

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A Mississippi man who apparently has a serious Confederate flag fetish tried to bomb a Walmart after threatening the company, along with several others, for not being sufficiently supportive of that flag. Thankfully, the guy doesn’t know much about bombmaking so it didn’t cause a lot of damage or kill anyone.

Or that he'd have been much better off using a rifle.  Then it would have been like every other mass shooting so far this year.  No one could have interfered until after he murdered several people.
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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty12/11/2015, 3:21 pm

The Daily Show puts the final nail in the coffin of the "good guy with a gun" myth:

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PostSubject: Re: Gun Control   Gun Control - Page 34 Empty12/11/2015, 7:27 pm

Because guns don't kill people - pictures of people with guns kill people.



http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/furor-after-north-dakota-principal-rejects-students-gun-yearbook-photo-n478656

Furor After North Dakota Principal Rejects Student's Gun Yearbook Photo

BY ELISHA FIELDSTADT

A North Dakota school district could decide as early as Friday on whether a photo of a gun-toting student that has attracted national attention will be allowed in the yearbook.
Charlie Renville posted a photo of his son, Josh Renville — clad in an American flag shirt, with his "favorite rifle" on his shoulder — on Facebook Tuesday, expressing frustration in the caption that Fargo North High School Principal Andy Dahlen had refused to allow it in the yearbook.
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"When you're looking whether it's appropriate or not ... I had a gut instinct that it was not" because weapons aren't allowed on school property, Dahlen said. He added that in past years, yearbooks may have featured photos of students hunting, but "we live in a different time now."

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I admit, I've not been watching the Daily Show as religiously as I was when Stewart was there, but damn...  they're still killing it. I definitely need to catch up. Noah's doing a great job.

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Guns don’t kill people.
Nerds with guns kill people.



http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_STAR_WARS_SPOILER_THREAT?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2015-12-22-12-57-15

Dec 22, 1:15 PM EST


MAN JAILED AFTER STUDENT THREATENED OVER "STAR WARS" SPOILER


HELENA, Mont. (AP) -- A Montana man is charged with threatening to shoot a boy for sharing information about a subplot of the new "Star Wars" movie during an online conversation.
Arthur Charles Roy, of Helena, was charged with felony assault with a weapon Monday during an appearance in Lewis and Clark County Justice Court. He remains jailed with his bail set at $10,000.
Roy, 18, became angry Thursday when he learned details about "Star Wars: The Force Awakens," from a Facebook friend, prosecutors said.
Roy sent the friend a picture of himself with a gun and threatened to come to the victim's school to shoot him, court records said. Roy reportedly said the gun was a Colt 1911 with a "hair trigger."
The friend called a school resource officer Thursday afternoon to report the threat.
Helena's alternative high school was locked down Friday morning after students said they were afraid Roy might follow through with his threat. Police arrested Roy on Friday afternoon. He declined to answer questions on the advice of his attorney, court records said.
Roy's mother asked why her son was being arrested since it was only a BB gun in the photo, charging documents said.
Chris Abbott, Roy's public defender in an ongoing separate case, wasn't immediately available to comment Tuesday. It's not clear if Abbott has been assigned to this case.




Moar laws.

http://newsfeeding.net/news/2887-shooting-victims-in-gun-controlled-chicago-year-to-date/

2,887 Shooting Victims In Gun-Controlled Chicago Year-To-Date

by NewsFeeding.Net on December 22, 2015 in News 0

On December 22 the Chicago Tribune reported that the number of shooting victims in gun-controlled Chicago year-to-date is 2,887.


Nearly 3,000 shooting victims in a city with an “assault weapons” ban, a “violence tax” on every gun and bullet sold, strict limitations on the number of gun store and on the locations of said stores. and numerous other gun controls ubiquitously instituted to keep law-abiding citizens safer, but which actually make it far more difficult for law-abiding citizens to acquire the guns they need for self-defense.
The Chicago Tribune previously reported that there had already been 2,703 shootings and 440 deaths in Chicago by November 23. Now the Tribune reports that there have been a total of 2,887 shooting victims year-to-date in Chicago.
The Tribune reported two people shot dead and eight more wounded on Sunday alone.
Breitbart News previously reported that Obama refused to admit the failure of Chicago gun control during a speech in the city on October 27. Instead, he blamed the city’s growing violence on states like Indiana and Wisconsin.
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Thanks Indiana for helping to skirt gun laws in neighboring states and  provide guns to street gangs... Evil or Very Mad
Federal case outlines how guns made their way from Indiana to Chicago

Gang member got weapons from college student who went on shopping sprees across state line, investigators say

As he sold four handguns in a South Side parking lot last year, Levaine Tanksley boasted to his customer that there were plenty more illicit weapons available, investigators say.

"Twenty-five more in four hours," Tanksley told his customer, who was secretly working for law enforcement and recording the conversation. "Give me $5,000 and you can put your order in then. I'll get you whatever, give me a list."

As Tanksley, who police say has ties to a Chicago street gang, made his sales pitch, David Lewisbey was stocking up on more weapons at a gun show 40 miles away in Crown Point, Ind., one of several trips he made across the state border and back in little more than a day, according to federal authorities. Five hours later, Lewisbey, an unlikely gun trafficker then enrolled in college, was back in Chicago as Tanksley made good on his promise and sold the informant nine more guns, authorities allege.

A federal indictment charges the two with illegally selling 43 firearms to the government informant in just under 26 hours, a volume made possible by gun shows and less restrictive state laws in Indiana, by far the No. 1 source of out-of-state guns used in crimes in Cook County. Private gun sales in Indiana don't require background checks, a waiting period or even a record of the transaction.

The scheme exposed by law enforcement illustrates the tidal wave of illegal guns confronting Chicago police as they battle surging numbers of homicides and shootings. With the country poised to respond to gun violence stretching from a first-grade classroom in Newtown, Conn., to Harsh Park on Chicago's South Side, allegations of the duo's lucrative enterprise provide a textbook example of how criminals can exploit existing gun laws to put society's most vulnerable at even greater risk.

"(Lewisbey) would go travel to Indiana, to these gun shows where he would load up literally a duffel bag, go from table to table paying in cash, large amounts of cash … before returning right into the worst neighborhoods of Chicago," Assistant U.S. Attorney Christopher Parente said at a recent detention hearing in federal court. "He would sell them literally in the back alley and on the side streets."

'An arms bazaar'

K's Merchandise, a big-box department store on a busy commercial strip outside Fort Wayne, Ind., has been shut for sometime. But on a recent Friday, a crowd swelled inside as shoppers slowly browsed hundreds of tables under bright fluorescent lights.

Gone were jewelry cases and electronics. Instead, spit-shined Sig Sauers, Glocks, Berettas and Rugers were spread across tables in neat rows. For collectors, there were novelties like an 1881 French pistol, Dirty Harry-style .44 Magnums and a Browning small enough to tuck into a palm. Rifles were perched on racks with care. One man walked the floor with an AR-15 slung on his back, a white flag poking out of the barrel offering it up for sale.

Some customers gripped the handguns for a feel and chatted with friendly, folksy sellers. Families strolled among the mostly male crowd, and there was a gathering space in the back to grab coffee, a chocolate bar or a hot dog.

The atmosphere was friendly and small-town — almost like a farmers market.

Tucked among many of the weapons displays were signs in bold lettering that read "Private Sales," "Cash Only" or "Private Collections."

The signs signaled to shoppers that there wouldn't necessarily be a background check or paperwork involved in a purchase, a crucial element for an illegal gun-trafficking scheme and thus a highly troubling aspect of gun shows for law enforcement and gun-control advocates alike.

Some shows insist on background checks even for private transfers, but law enforcement experts said buyers and sellers commonly move transactions to the parking lot.

"They are like an arms bazaar," said Paul Helmke, Fort Wayne's former mayor and onetime president of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence. "We make it very, very easy for dangerous people to get guns."

According to federal law, dealers who hold a federal firearms license must run a phone background check on gun buyers and have customers fill out Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives Form 4473, promising they have no criminal background or mental illness, said ATF spokesman Thomas Ahern. But an Indiana resident who wants to sell or transfer a gun from his or her private collection only needs to see an Indiana state ID first. There is no limit to how many guns can be transferred.

And even dealers in Indiana don't have to make customers wait to take possession of a handgun. Illinois, by contrast, mandates a 72-hour waiting period.

According to court documents, Lewisbey met a gun seller at the Indianapolis 1500 Gun and Knife Show in March 2012 and bought six guns after showing an Indiana state ID — although prosecutors believe the document was fake because Lewisbey lived in Illinois. Over the next two months, Lewisbey bought 30 to 40 more guns from the same person, including two exchanges at McDonald's parking lots in Indiana, the charges alleged.

Then, over a 26-hour period on April 22 and 23, Lewisbey teamed up with Tanksley to make five different sales to the informant, collecting $38,000 in cash in all, authorities said.

Lewisbey and Tanksley have both pleaded not guilty.

The number of guns Tanksley had access to stunned veteran law enforcement officers. Some believe it is one of the larger gun-running cases in recent history in Chicago. A task force including Chicago police officers, Illinois State Police troopers and ATF agents unraveled the scheme.

The trail led them straight over the border to Indiana, which has drawn increasing attention from law enforcement here.

"If you take the next five states after Indiana and add them up, they still don't equal the amount of guns that have come from Indiana," said Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart, who last week headed a "gun summit" in Gary that drew more than 25 Illinois and Indiana law enforcement agencies to talk about how to stem the tide.

"There is no law prohibiting us from having a covert presence at these shows, looking for license plates, trying to identify patterns (and) people selling out of their car trunks," Dart said. "The Constitution doesn't require us to close our eyes and jam our heads in the sand."

According to the federal charges, Lewisbey's cellphone was pinging off cell towers in Indiana on days that Tanksley was selling guns in Chicago — either at a Chinatown parking lot or near a home in the 6800 block of South Langley Avenue. A van rented by Lewisbey was also spotted on Langley on the days of sales, authorities said.

Traces done on the 43 guns revealed that half were bought in Indiana — 13 of them by the Indiana seller Lewisbey had met in March.

But that is believed to be the tip of Lewisbey's trafficking scheme, authorities said. Parente, in arguing that Lewisbey be held without bail, said he had been active for four years and had more than one source at the gun shows.

Lewisbey's attorney conceded that the volume of guns involved in the scheme is troubling, but he said the government has not provided evidence that Lewisbey supplied the guns to Tanksley.

"He rented a van, but we don't know who drove it. Nobody saw him with the cellphone. Nobody saw him in the van," said attorney John Beal. "It's truly not clear to me that (Lewisbey) knew where they were ending up."

Little in common

How the alleged partnership between Tanksley and Lewisbey blossomed is less clear, because the two have sharply contrasting life stories.

"There is little if any connection (between them)," Beal said.

Tanksley was convicted in Cook County as part of a large drug trafficking scheme in 2006 at the Harold Ickes Homes, according to court records. He was sentenced to seven years in prison.

Lewisbey, meanwhile, had one previous arrest for possession of a fake credit card. An offensive lineman nicknamed "Big Dave," he went to the University of Kansas on a football scholarship after graduating from high school in 2008. But he soon left the school and enrolled at the College of DuPage in 2009, which he attended for a year and a half, according to a court filing by Beal.

Later he went to the University of Houston but was forced to drop out in the fall of 2012 because of financial difficulties. Still, just before his arrest, Lewisbey was set to resume his studies there after his family helped him resolve his tuition problems.

"Mr. Lewisbey has strong family ties," Beal wrote in a filing that unsuccessfully sought his release on bail.

Investigators believe the two have ties that go far back, but their link was greed, they said. The charges against Lewisbey show he felt comfortable navigating the gun show world, but he needed a connection on Chicago streets to sell the guns — and he found that in Tanksley, investigators said.

For gun control advocates, the trafficking scheme highlights the need for universal background checks for gun purchases — a key part of President Barack Obama's proposed legislation.

But Indiana gun owners historically have fought hard to protect an individual's right to sell guns without government oversight, and experts suspect they will continue to do so even in the current climate following the massacre in Newtown and the death of 15-year-old honor student Hadiya Pendleton in Chicago.

Bob Pfefferkorn, a retired maintenance supervisor and Army veteran who was recently selling firearms at K's Merchandise, falls somewhere in between the two sides of the heated argument.
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obamavehicle
Obama administration to push for vehicle purchase background checks

Following the deadly Las Vegas crash that killed one and injured over 30 others, the Obama administration has said that it plans to push legislation mandating a criminal background check for anyone purchasing an automobile, and a mandatory 3 day waiting period before the purchase of gasoline.



http://www.cbsnews.com/news/deadly-las-vegas-crash-suspect-lakeisha-holloway-appears-before-judge/

CBS/AP December 23, 2015, 11:53 AM
Suspect in deadly Las Vegas crash appears before judge


LAS VEGAS - A woman accused of intentionally plowing a car carrying her child through crowds of pedestrians on a Las Vegas Strip sidewalk faced a judge Wednesday on charges of murder, hit-and-run and child abuse.
Her lawyer simply requested a 30-day status check, according to CBS affiliate KLAS in Las Vegas. In the meantime, she will be held without bail until her next hearing on January 20.
Lakeisha Nicole Holloway's initial court appearance did not reveal why authorities say the former award-winning high school graduate mowed down tourists and put her 3-year-old daughter in danger.
Holloway, 24, plans to plead not guilty, according to Joseph Abood, one of her public defense attorneys. In Nevada, the plea is assumed during a first court appearance. Holloway won't be asked to answer the charges until another hearing in coming weeks.
"We can all agree this is a shocking and tragic event," Abood said as he expressed sympathy for the families of the victims.


Homeless woman accused in deadly hit and run on Las Vegas strip

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The crash Sunday near the Paris Las Vegas resort killed Jessica Valenzuela of Arizona and injured at least 35 others from several states, Mexico and Canada. Three people were still in critical condition, and five others remained hospitalized.
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