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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   11/15/2012, 11:49 am

edge540 wrote:
Thank you.
So I take it your stance on abortion differs from that of Rick Santorum and Paul Ryan and you do not support the Personhood Amendment, correct?

Can you provide this Personhood Amendment in full?
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   11/15/2012, 12:42 pm

happy jack wrote:
edge540 wrote:
Thank you.
So I take it your stance on abortion differs from that of Rick Santorum and Paul Ryan and you do not support the Personhood Amendment, correct?

Can you provide this Personhood Amendment in full?

Here ya go:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr212/text
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   11/15/2012, 1:02 pm

edge540 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
edge540 wrote:
Thank you.
So I take it your stance on abortion differs from that of Rick Santorum and Paul Ryan and you do not support the Personhood Amendment, correct?

Can you provide this Personhood Amendment in full?

Here ya go:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr212/text

Thanks.
No, I don't support it.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   11/15/2012, 1:05 pm

happy jack wrote:
edge540 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
edge540 wrote:
Thank you.
So I take it your stance on abortion differs from that of Rick Santorum and Paul Ryan and you do not support the Personhood Amendment, correct?

Can you provide this Personhood Amendment in full?

Here ya go:
http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr212/text

Thanks.
No, I don't support it.

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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   11/23/2012, 2:21 pm

Well, if the death of Savita Halappanavar wasn't enough to demonstrate that the "pro-life" group is anything other than "pro-fetus", here's another shining example of their callous disregard for the born:

Michigan Republicans propose tax credit for unborn foetuses

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Republican lawmakers in Michigan, a state which eliminated tax credits for children last year, have proposed a tax credit for unborn foetuses of 12 weeks gestation.

If the measure, outlined in two bills heard by the house tax policy committee on Tuesday, becomes law it would be the first of its kind in the US.

Critics said the proposal was "absurd" and described it as a backdoor way of trying to pass "personhood" legislation which would give rights to an embryo and crack down on abortion.

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Tax exemptions for children and families have been cut in the state, to the extent that another 9,000 children have been forced into poverty as a result, according to policy groups.

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"It's clear Lansing Republicans have the wrong priorities by wasting time on these extreme bills," said Zack Pohl, executive director of Progress Michigan.

"This is really a backdoor way of passing extreme personhood legislation, which has been rejected by voters in states across the country. Even worse, this would create a special new tax credit for unborn fetuses, after Lansing Republicans eliminated the tax credit for living, breathing children last year. It's time for our elected leaders to get their priorities straight."

Last year, the state legislature and governor eliminated a child tax credit deduction which went to 2.35 million children in the state, worth $57m, according to the Michigan League for Public Policy. In addition, changes to the Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC), which dropped from 20% to 6% for families in 2011, drove 9,000 children in the state into poverty, the MLPP told the Guardian. A spokeswoman for the group said she did not want to comment on the foetus tax credit.

Meghan Groen, the director of government relations at Planned Parenthood Advocates of Michigan, said the bill was absurd and said that it set a dangerous precedent. She said: "We don't have child tax credit here in Michigan, that has been eliminated."

She said of the foetal tax credit bill: "The way they have drafted it, it is not for pre-natal care, but is for the fetus. To focus on the fetus above all else is dangerous. There are a lot of women here who are looking to provide for their children right now and their needs are not being met."
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/14/2013, 4:55 pm

Ah, yes.
Courage.
Heroes, keeping the rest of us safe from all those babies
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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/opinion/sunday/courage-on-abortion-in-wichita-kansas.html?ref=opinion&_r=0

EDITORIAL
Courage in Kansas

By THE EDITORIAL BOARD

Published: April 13, 2013

Nearly four years after an anti-abortion extremist opened fire and killed a Wichita abortion provider, Dr. George Tiller, as he stood in the foyer of his church, a new medical clinic offering comprehensive reproductive health services — including abortions through the first trimester of pregnancy — opened on April 3. It is in the building that once housed Dr. Tiller’s clinic.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/15/2013, 8:20 am

The women who went to him needed late term abortions due to the severe complications of their pregnancies. They wanted an abortion rather than delivering a dead or dying fetus, or one condemned to a lifetime of pain and suffering. They were not women who simply waited 8.5 months and decided they didn't want their babies after all. And they went to him because he was one of the few doctors that still provided the service.

But, you know, fuck them. Women are only incubators, and babies must be born, regardless of the suffering of either.

Here's to hoping we see more dead women like Savita Halappanavar.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/15/2013, 5:18 pm

Heretic wrote:
The women who went to him needed late term abortions due to the severe complications of their pregnancies. They wanted an abortion rather than delivering a dead or dying fetus, or one condemned to a lifetime of pain and suffering. They were not women who simply waited 8.5 months and decided they didn't want their babies after all. And they went to him because he was one of the few doctors that still provided the service.

I’m not questioning why women went to Tiller, and I am not celebrating Tiller’s murder (notice that I am not afraid to use the term “murder” when discussing abortion). His murder is as wrong as the murder of anyone else, and his murderer deserves the punishment he received. I’m just pointing out that the folks in the article I cited are laughably treated as heroes.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/16/2013, 2:31 pm

APRIL 15, 2013 4:00 AM

The Media After Gosnell

Now it's time for journalists report on the “meat-market style” abortions at a Delaware clinic.

ByJohn Fund

If there were an award for Most Constructive Shaming of the News Media, the clear winner would be Kirsten Powers, the brave Fox News pundit and Daily Beast columnist. Last Thursday, she called out the mainstream media for failing to adequately report on the ongoing trial of Dr. Kermit Gosnell, the Philadelphia abortionist who is charged with murdering seven newborn infants and a patient seeking an abortion. Powers’s USA Today piece provoked an instant response from many sheepish journalists.
Megan McArdle of the Daily Beast acknowledged she “should have” written about the “horror Doc’s” clinic. The Washington Post made the stunning admission that “we should have sent a reporter sooner.” Dylan Beers, Politico’s media reporter, flatly stated that “Gosnell should be front-page, top-of-the-hour news by primetime tonight.” Jeffrey Goldberg concluded, “It’s remarkable that it took this long.”
Indeed, the silence had been stunning since the Gosnell trial began back on March 18. No mention of the story at all on ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, NPR, or MSNBC, and no front-page stories in any major paper. NATIONAL REVIEW, the Weekly Standard, Breitbart.com, and Michelle Malkin, on the other hand, provided early and consistent coverage. J. D. Mullane, the columnist for the Bucks County Courier Times who has been a tiger on the story, reported last week what he found in the courtroom: In the entire 40-seat section reserved for the media, he was the only one present. A couple of local journos were scattered elsewhere around the courtroom.
The lack of interest is striking in an era when “if it bleeds it leads” thinking pervades the media. As Valerie Richardson of the Washington Times noted last week:
The Gosnell case would seem to contain all the ingredients of must-see television: a formerly respected community leader accused of unspeakable acts; the death of a young immigrant woman; a parade of former employees offering graphic testimony on the gruesome deaths of more than 100 just-born infants; and even the implication by the doctor’s lawyers that the charges have been motivated by racism. Dr. Gosnell is black and his clinic was in a mostly minority neighborhood.
It’s natural to think that some of the lack of interest stems from the gruesomeness of the details. Gosnell’s “practice” was so grisly that some people might wish to turn away and ignore the nightmare. But unpalatable images and facts don’t stop the media from reporting on the horrors of famine-stricken North Korea, even though there are almost no pictures available. It seems undeniable, then, that abortion politics played a role in the blackout. When Mullane asked a member of the court’s staff why there was so little media interest, the man pointed to the filthy medical equipment set up in the courtroom as an exhibit and asked, “If you’re pro-choice, do you really want anybody to know about this?”
It’s not as if there isn’t good reason for pro-choice journalistic sleuths to pursue the story for simple muckraking purposes. It’s a stunning tale of bureaucratic neglect and incompetence. Despite its law against partial-birth abortions, Pennsylvania stopped regular inspections of abortion clinics in 1993. But regulators still received frequent — and credible — complaints about unsanitary or horrific practices taking place behind Gosnell’s clinic door. And they did nothing.
A 2011 grand-jury report singled out racism and politics for the “see no evil” attitudes. “We think the reason no one acted is because the women in question were poor and of color, because the victims were infants without identities, and because the subject was the political football of abortion,” the grand-jury report stated. Philadelphia district attorney Seth Williams, a liberal Democrat and one of the prosecutors in the case, maintains that abortion clinics are held to lower standards than other businesses are. In 2011, he asked, “How is it that we have more oversight in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania of women’s hair salons than we do over abortion clinics?”
Kudos to those in the media who are now quick to play catch-up on Gosnell. We might owe some of this course correction to the fact that the chief critic of media malpractice on Gosnell, Kirsten Powers, is not a conservative. Powers is a former Democratic political consultant who worked in the Clinton White House, and she supports most liberal causes, but she hasn’t spent her entire career in the media or the professional Left. She grew up in Fairbanks, Alaska, understands the values of the Heartland, and is a practicing Christian. From her perspective, many people at both ends of the political spectrum wear ideological blinders. “This inability to engage in debate or handle disagreement is becoming the calling card of the Left,” she told the Religious News Service last week. “It should be a top concern for Americans, especially if you are a liberal and you believe dissent is a critical part to democracy.”
It’s sad that it took a liberal such as Powers to shame so many journos into waking up and doing their jobs. The blunt truth is that if a conservative had written her piece, the response would have been far more muted — or journalists would have attacked the messenger. Jeff Toobin of CNN offered a preposterous explanation for the media’s handling of the Gosnell case: “Well, the people making those [media] criticisms are by and large conservative. They are saying the liberal media is trying to protect abortion rights by not showing this horror show. I don’t buy that at all. . . . It’s a business decision. We are not operating with the political agenda here. We pick stories, by and large, for reasons that we think people would be interested. I don’t think we’re covering this up.”
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/16/2013, 2:45 pm

happy jack wrote:
Now it's time for journalists report on the “meat-market style” abortions at a Delaware clinic.



If low information brain stem conservatives didn't live in bubble they would know it has been covered and reported.

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VIEWPOINT: How The Conservative Media Freakout Over Gosnell Reinforces The Right’s Worst Biases
...But the “media blackout” conservatives allege was a fiction. The New York Times ran five pieces on the Gosnell trial before the controversy erupted. The Washington Post ran eight related items before or roughly concurrent to Powers’ column. Dan Amira at New York Magazine finds a similar level of Gosnell coverage on major television news networks...

The case was also extensively covered in pro-choice media outlets (including this one) and local Pennsylvania publications...
...Add that to the fact that there’s absolutely no documentary evidence of an ideological conspiracy to not cover Gosnell and the evidence of media bias in this case is astonishingly weak. So why are the accusations of it so common?

...In short: the entrenched conservative victim mentality. Movement conservatives, long ensconced in the “liberal media” narrative, have created an entire alternative media ecosystem that’s flourished even despite the conservative movement’s extraordinary political success since Reagan. This siege mentality is particularly acute among religious conservatives, who can be found arguing that mainstream liberal institutions are “at war” with Christianity or that Christians are becoming second-class citizens with depressing frequency...
...Moreover, the conservative tendency to blame the media is part-and-parcel of its broader disconnect with reality. When the mainstream media dismissed or debunked the conservative spin on non-scandals like Solyndra or Shirley Sherrod, and the public generally yawned, the immediate reaction in the conservative press was to blame the “in the tank” media. This knee-jerk “media criticism first” response inoculates conservatives against having to check their own premises, thus erecting new walls around their prison of epistemic closure.


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/15/1862301/viewpoint-how-the-conservative-media-freakout-over-gosnell-reinforces-the-rights-worst-biases/
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/16/2013, 4:46 pm

edge540 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
Now it's time for journalists report on the “meat-market style” abortions at a Delaware clinic.



If low information brain stem conservatives didn't live in bubble they would know it has been covered and reported.

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VIEWPOINT: How The Conservative Media Freakout Over Gosnell Reinforces The Right’s Worst Biases
...But the “media blackout” conservatives allege was a fiction. The New York Times ran five pieces on the Gosnell trial before the controversy erupted. The Washington Post ran eight related items before or roughly concurrent to Powers’ column. Dan Amira at New York Magazine finds a similar level of Gosnell coverage on major television news networks...

The case was also extensively covered in pro-choice media outlets (including this one) and local Pennsylvania publications...
...Add that to the fact that there’s absolutely no documentary evidence of an ideological conspiracy to not cover Gosnell and the evidence of media bias in this case is astonishingly weak. So why are the accusations of it so common?

...In short: the entrenched conservative victim mentality. Movement conservatives, long ensconced in the “liberal media” narrative, have created an entire alternative media ecosystem that’s flourished even despite the conservative movement’s extraordinary political success since Reagan. This siege mentality is particularly acute among religious conservatives, who can be found arguing that mainstream liberal institutions are “at war” with Christianity or that Christians are becoming second-class citizens with depressing frequency...
...Moreover, the conservative tendency to blame the media is part-and-parcel of its broader disconnect with reality. When the mainstream media dismissed or debunked the conservative spin on non-scandals like Solyndra or Shirley Sherrod, and the public generally yawned, the immediate reaction in the conservative press was to blame the “in the tank” media. This knee-jerk “media criticism first” response inoculates conservatives against having to check their own premises, thus erecting new walls around their prison of epistemic closure.


http://thinkprogress.org/health/2013/04/15/1862301/viewpoint-how-the-conservative-media-freakout-over-gosnell-reinforces-the-rights-worst-biases/



Your article claims that the New York Times ran five articles on the trial, but they only link to one of them.
Where are the others?
But the New York Times did manage to find time to cover George Tiller - about 6 pages worth of articles are listed:


http://topics.nytimes.com/topics/reference/timestopics/people/t/george_r_tiller/index.html?offset=0&s=newest

And the New York Times also found time to cover the Trayvon Martin incident - about 23 pages worth of articles are listed, well over 100 articles:

http://topics.nytimes.com/top/reference/timestopics/people/m/trayvon_martin/index.html

I guess they get bored when the victims are infants and poor immigrant women.
Go figure.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/16/2013, 8:33 pm

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Your article claims that the New York Times ran five articles on the trial, but they only link to one of them.
Where are the others?

Here ya go Bubble Boy
http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch/#/Dr.+Kermit+Gosnell
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 5:53 am

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Your article claims that the New York Times ran five articles on the trial, but they only link to one of them.
Where are the others?

Here ya go Bubble Boy
http://query.nytimes.com/search/sitesearch/#/Dr.+Kermit+Gosnell

Prior to the article I posted, the New York Times had run only one article on the trial. If you can find others, please post them and I will acknowledge that you are correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 8:43 am

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Prior to the article I posted, the New York Times had run only one article on the trial....Your article claims that the New York Times ran five articles on the trial, but they only link to one of them.
Wrong, Bubble Boy.
look and see if you can figure out what to do now.

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But the “media blackout” conservatives allege was a fiction. The New York Times ran five pieces on the Gosnell trial before the controversy erupted. The Washington Post ran eight related items before or roughly concurrent to Powers’ column. Dan Amira at New York Magazine finds a similar level of Gosnell coverage on major television news networks.

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If you can find others, please post them and I will acknowledge that you are correct.


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By John Fund

John Fund is a discredited right wing voter fraud conspiracy-monger and patholoigal liar who makes up bullshit.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 3:44 pm

edge540 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
Prior to the article I posted, the New York Times had run only one article on the trial....Your article claims that the New York Times ran five articles on the trial, but they only link to one of them.
Wrong, Bubble Boy.
look and see if you can figure out what to do now.

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But the “media blackout” conservatives allege was a fiction. The New York Times ran five pieces on the Gosnell trial before the controversy erupted. The Washington Post ran eight related items before or roughly concurrent to Powers’ column. Dan Amira at New York Magazine finds a similar level of Gosnell coverage on major television news networks.

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If you can find others, please post them and I will acknowledge that you are correct.


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By John Fund

John Fund is a discredited right wing voter fraud conspiracy-monger and patholoigal liar who makes up bullshit.



Prior to the article I posted, the New York Times had run only one article on the trial – this one:

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/03/19/us/philadelphia-abortion-doctors-murder-trial-opens.html

Abortion Doctor’s Murder Trial Opens
By JON HURDLE
Published: March 18, 2013

PHILADELPHIA — In opening statements in court on Monday, prosecutors charged that a doctor who operated a women’s health clinic here killed seven viable fetuses by plunging scissors into their necks and “snipping” their spinal cords and was also responsible for the death of a pregnant woman in his care.
The physician, Dr. Kermit Gosnell, 72, is charged with seven counts of first-degree murder as well as multiple counts of conspiracy, criminal solicitation and violation of a state law that forbids abortions after the 24th week of pregnancy. Dr. Gosnell had operated the Women’s Medical Society in West Philadelphia.


The other articles you cited were all published in 2011, long before the opening of his trial in March of this year.
Are you, perhaps, dateline-challenged?

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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 4:28 pm

You and all the other conservative whiners were whining about the media reporting- "Now it's time for journalists report on the “meat-market style” abortions at a Delaware clinic."
Your whining implies that it was never covered, before or after. Fact is it was.
If low information brain stem conservatives didn't live in bubble they would know it has been covered and reported.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 4:44 pm

edge540 wrote:
Your whining implies that it was never covered, before or after. Fact is it was.
If low information brain stem conservatives didn't live in bubble they would know it has been covered and reported.

The New York Times had published exactly one article on the trial prior to the point where people began to comment on the glaring omission.
You call it whining, I call it pointing out the simple truth.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 8:00 pm

edge540 wrote:
You and all the other conservative whiners were whining about the media reporting- "Now it's time for journalists report on the “meat-market style” abortions at a Delaware clinic."
Your whining implies that it was never covered, before or after. Fact is it was.
If low information brain stem conservatives didn't live in bubble they would know it has been covered and reported.
What else would you expect from a buffoon that gets his marching orders from the likes of Breitbart.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 8:23 pm

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edge540 wrote:
You and all the other conservative whiners were whining about the media reporting- "Now it's time for journalists report on the “meat-market style” abortions at a Delaware clinic."
Your whining implies that it was never covered, before or after. Fact is it was.
If low information brain stem conservatives didn't live in bubble they would know it has been covered and reported.
What else would you expect from a buffoon that gets his marching orders from the likes of Breitbart.

You just can't help ignoring truth and reality, can you?
Show me where the New York Times published more than the one article on the Gosnell trial prior to April 15th and I will gladly tell you that you are correct.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 9:12 pm

[quote="happy jack"]
Artie60438 wrote:
edge540 wrote:
You and all the other conservative whiners were whining about the media reporting- "Now it's time for journalists report on the “meat-market style” abortions at a Delaware clinic."
Your whining implies that it was never covered, before or after. Fact is it was.
If low information brain stem conservatives didn't live in bubble they would know it has been covered and reported.
What else would you expect from a buffoon that gets his marching orders from the likes of Breitbart.

happy jack wrote:
[b]You just can't help ignoring truth and reality, can you?
You're the one who's dead wrong,not me Shocked
happy jack wrote:
Show me where the New York Times published more than the one article on the Gosnell trial prior to April 15th and I will gladly tell you that you are correct.
You know I'd love to,but unfortunately the days of me providing information to low-information cowardly trolls like yourself,are over.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/17/2013, 9:31 pm

Artie60438 wrote:
You're the one who's dead wrong,not me.

Precisely, what am I "dead wrong" about?
Please - be precise.
Please, be very, very precise.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/18/2013, 6:27 am

happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
You're the one who's dead wrong,not me.

Precisely, what am I "dead wrong" about?
Please - be precise.
Please, be very, very precise.
Your words:
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You just can't help ignoring truth and reality, can you?
Show me where the New York Times published more than the one article on the Gosnell trial prior to April 15th and I will gladly tell you that you are correct.
The fact is that the NY Times posted more than your false claim of 1 article. Precise enough?
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/18/2013, 7:40 am

Artie60438 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
You're the one who's dead wrong,not me.

Precisely, what am I "dead wrong" about?
Please - be precise.
Please, be very, very precise.
Your words:
Quote :
You just can't help ignoring truth and reality, can you?
Show me where the New York Times published more than the one article on the Gosnell trial prior to April 15th and I will gladly tell you that you are correct.
The fact is that the NY Times posted more than your false claim of 1 article. Precise enough?

Link, please.
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/18/2013, 9:38 am

happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
You're the one who's dead wrong,not me.

Precisely, what am I "dead wrong" about?
Please - be precise.
Please, be very, very precise.
Your words:
Quote :
You just can't help ignoring truth and reality, can you?
Show me where the New York Times published more than the one article on the Gosnell trial prior to April 15th and I will gladly tell you that you are correct.
The fact is that the NY Times posted more than your false claim of 1 article. Precise enough?

Link, please.
Upon reviewing the thread I see that you claimed that articles referenced by 'Edge' that were published in 2011 didn't fit your idiotic criteria even though they referenced the upcoming trial. It's obvious to me that you plan to weasel out using that as an objection and thus start another one of your circle jerks. Shocked Therefore....No link for you! Laughing

Now when you get through pouting and whining I suggest that you read the following article which explains that your overall claim that the big bad conspiratorial main stream media is engaging in deliberately ignoring the Gosnell trial is simply no different than what your favorite right-wing rags did.

'Exploding the Claims of 'Liberal Media' Cover-up in the Dr. Kermit Gosnell Case
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With rare exceptions, conservative media also ignored the case until recently. As Paul Farhi at The Washington Post pointed out yesterday, the Weekly Standard "hadn’t published anything on the trial, according to a search of the Nexis database.” Neither did Ross Douthat. Or the Wall Street Journal right-wing editorial page.

Kevin Drum at Mother Jones observed today that the Washington Times carried a piece last month—from the AP—on the start of the Gosnell trial and nothing since, beyond running seven separate pieces on the media coverup angle.

Right-wingers claiming that THEY didn't ignore the case are frantically linking to this Jim Geragty "takedown" of that meme. Problem is: every piece he cites is from 2011--when "liberal media" had more coverage.

Farhi points out that the Associated Press, like Fox News, has covered the case extensively. The New York Times ran a piece as recently as March 19. One reason for the lack of extensive TV coverage is: There are no cameras in this courtroom. Another: The judge has imposed a "gag rule" on all involved. A third: Since when they do care much about crimes against folks in poor neighborhoods?

Nevertheless, Howard Kurtz on Sunday said CNN had covered the case before the latest uproar, and CBS and ABC offered reports way back in January. More updates here.

Another one of your mainstream media conspiracies goes up in smoke!
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PostSubject: Re: Abortion   4/18/2013, 10:48 am

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notice that I am not afraid to use the term “murder” when discussing abortion

And miscarriages, assuming you're attempting to be honest and accurate. They're all potential homicides.

On Gosnell “blackout,” where were conservatives before this week?

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Piggybacking on Irin Carmon’s excellent piece dismantling the myth that the media has intentionally ignored the case of Kermit Gosnell, the Philadelphia abortion doctor now on trail for allegedly committing horrific crimes against his patients, it’s worth noting that some conservatives attacking the media now didn’t seem particularly interested in the case until a few days ago.

As Dave Weigel points out in his response to Carmon, one reason Gosnell didn’t get more attention was because the judge issued a gag order preventing lawyers from speaking publicly about it, but another may be that pro-life politicians never nationalized Gosnell’s crimes and made them into an issue that would attract more discussion.

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What about the conservative media? A search of TVEyes finds that Fox News mentioned the case just a handful of times. Special Report With Bret Baier included brief updates on the trail in its roundup of the day’s news on several nights over the past month, while Mike Huckabee aired a taped segment followed by a panel discussion on his weekend show late last month, but it’s hardly been leading news. The “Obama phone” got far more coverage.

A search of the National Review’s website shows it’s written little on Gosnell, while the Weekly Standard has done three pieces (the magazine has run six stories on Justin Bieber). To its credit, Breitbart.com, which decried “a full-blown, coordinated blackout throughout the entire national media” has written plenty about Gosnell. But Twitchy, the Michelle Malkin-backed conservative Twitter-activism site that has been haranguing the media for not covering the case, didn’t offer its first real mention until March 19.

And I couldn’t find anything from Fox contributor Kirsten Powers on Gosnell from before this week. She kicked off this whole conversation with a USA Today Op-Ed.

Regardless of whether the Gosnell case should be getting more attention, it’s difficult to take complaints seriously from people who haven’t used their own public platforms to push a story they think others are now ignoring.

Hell, it wasn't even on Breitbart.com's radar. Yeah, can't take this seriously at all.

Or perhaps Breitbart.com isn't beyond the reach of Big Media... Shocked The Conspiracy is bigger and more powerful than I thought.
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