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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   5/18/2016, 7:13 am

Actually, I agree with most (but not all) of what you're saying.  I don't believe that computer programming was ever a "menial field," regardless of the writer's characterization. And I have no idea what  "complex formula" was used by the the professor, but I don't have a reason to question the methodology, either.

However, I totally agree that anyone who works longer hours and puts in extra effort deserves compensation commensurate with the effort expended. That's just basic fairness.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   5/18/2016, 7:51 am

Scorpion wrote:
 I don't believe that computer programming was ever a "menial field," regardless of the writer's characterization.



I don't know how the writer meant it, but when I used the term 'menial', it was a poor word choice. It's not that it was ever an unimportant field - I just don't think that, at it's inception, very many people realized quite what it would turn into, and how indispensable it would eventually become.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   5/18/2016, 9:27 am

Scorpion wrote:
Actually, I agree with most (but not all) of what you're saying.  I don't believe that computer programming was ever a "menial field," regardless of the writer's characterization. And I have no idea what  "complex formula" was used by the the professor, but I don't have a reason to question the methodology, either.
I think the author may have been mixing up programming with data processing or simple data entry when programming was done on cards and each instruction had to be individually typed on a data card.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   5/18/2016, 4:21 pm

Artie60438 wrote:
Scorpion wrote:
Actually, I agree with most (but not all) of what you're saying.  I don't believe that computer programming was ever a "menial field," regardless of the writer's characterization. And I have no idea what  "complex formula" was used by the the professor, but I don't have a reason to question the methodology, either.

I think the author may have been mixing up programming with data processing or simple data entry when programming was done on cards and each instruction had to be individually typed on a data card.

Yeah, well maybe the writer was talking about data entry, but that sure as hell isn't programming.  When programming was done on cards, the code had to be written by an analyst who knew the language that the code was written in... generally the analyst/programmer wrote out the code, and a clerk typed it on to cards.  The clerk was nothing more than a glorified typist.

IMHO, there are serious inconsistencies in this article. I've not seen the research, but it's clear that the writer of the piece (or the professor) has some gaps in knowledge about how the world actually works...
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   5/18/2016, 5:41 pm

Scorpion wrote:

IMHO, there are serious inconsistencies in this article. I've not seen the research, but it's clear that the writer of the piece (or the professor) has some gaps in knowledge about how the world actually works...
As it turns out the Professor,Dr. Asaf Levanon, specializes in
Social stratification, sociology of work, demography, and social psychology. He didn't even graduate college until the year 2000 so he could easily be totally clueless as to what jobs were what in the early 70's and how the industry and positions evolved.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   7/6/2016, 4:51 pm

Fox News Sources: Gretchen Carlson Wasn’t The First Roger Ailes Victim
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“He told me that if he was thinking of hiring a woman, he’d ask himself if he would fuck her, and if he would, then he’d hire her to be on-camera.”

WASHINGTON ― Some Fox News on-air personalities are unsurprised by the news that former host Gretchen Carlson has filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes.

“We thought it would happen after she was taken off of ‘Fox & Friends,’” said one Fox News source who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation. “She kept quiet because Roger gave her the afternoon show, but everyone at Fox knew it was eventually coming. He hated her and would tell people that she was ‘a crazy, vindictive bitch.’”

Other sources inside Fox confirmed that Carlson had first threatened to file the lawsuit after Ailes removed her as a host of “Fox & Friends.” But sources say Carlson held off on filing a suit when Ailes agreed to give her the afternoon show.

Carlson was a host of the popular “Fox & Friends” morning program from 2006 until 2013, but was allegedly removed from the show after complaining about her male co-host Steve Doocy. (Disclosure: I was a Fox News contributor from 2014 to 2015.)
Court document
An excerpt from Carlson’s lawsuit describes the hostile work environment allegedly created by Fox host Steve Doocy.

In the suit, Carlson alleges that she was mocked by Ailes for complaining about unequal treatment by male colleagues, and that she was demoted to the afternoon show with reduced pay as retaliation. Carlson also claims that Ailes demanded sex as a way to improve her standing at Fox News and told her to “turn around so he could view her posterior.”

Carlson’s not the only woman to accuse Ailes of such behavior. One female Fox News contributor, who asked to remain anonymous, said that she had a similar encounter with Ailes.

“He asked me to turn around so he can see my ass,” the contributor said, describing one of her meetings with the chairman.

Another Fox News employee, who likewise asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation, said that Ailes told her she could only wear dresses on air. She also described a story that she said Ailes often told about his hiring process for on-camera personalities.

“He always brags to people about how he doesn’t do polling or testing when he chooses his on-air talent. He told me that if he was thinking of hiring a woman, he’d ask himself if he would fuck her, and if he would, then he’d hire her to be on-camera,” the employee said. “He then said if it was a man he’d think about whether he could sit down for a baseball game with him and not get annoyed of him. If he could, then he’d hire him.”

Carlson’s lawsuit, which was filed in the Superior Court of New Jersey, alleges that she was eventually fired for refusing Ailes’ sexual advancements.

Fox News did not respond to a request for comment for this story.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   7/8/2016, 4:21 am

Artie60438 wrote:
Fox News Sources: Gretchen Carlson Wasn’t The First Roger Ailes Victim
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“He told me that if he was thinking of hiring a woman, he’d ask himself if he would fuck her, and if he would, then he’d hire her to be on-camera.”

WASHINGTON ― Some Fox News on-air personalities are unsurprised by the news that former host Gretchen Carlson has filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against Fox News Chairman Roger Ailes.

“We thought it would happen after she was taken off of ‘Fox & Friends,’” said one Fox News source who asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation. “She kept quiet because Roger gave her the afternoon show, but everyone at Fox knew it was eventually coming. He hated her and would tell people that she was ‘a crazy, vindictive bitch.’”

Other sources inside Fox confirmed that Carlson had first threatened to file the lawsuit after Ailes removed her as a host of “Fox & Friends.” But sources say Carlson held off on filing a suit when Ailes agreed to give her the afternoon show.

Carlson was a host of the popular “Fox & Friends” morning program from 2006 until 2013, but was allegedly removed from the show after complaining about her male co-host Steve Doocy. (Disclosure: I was a Fox News contributor from 2014 to 2015.)
Court document
An excerpt from Carlson’s lawsuit describes the hostile work environment allegedly created by Fox host Steve Doocy.

In the suit, Carlson alleges that she was mocked by Ailes for complaining about unequal treatment by male colleagues, and that she was demoted to the afternoon show with reduced pay as retaliation. Carlson also claims that Ailes demanded sex as a way to improve her standing at Fox News and told her to “turn around so he could view her posterior.”

Carlson’s not the only woman to accuse Ailes of such behavior. One female Fox News contributor, who asked to remain anonymous, said that she had a similar encounter with Ailes.

“He asked me to turn around so he can see my ass,” the contributor said, describing one of her meetings with the chairman.

Another Fox News employee, who likewise asked to remain anonymous for fear of retaliation, said that Ailes told her she could only wear dresses on air. She also described a story that she said Ailes often told about his hiring process for on-camera personalities.

“He always brags to people about how he doesn’t do polling or testing when he chooses his on-air talent. He told me that if he was thinking of hiring a woman, he’d ask himself if he would fuck her, and if he would, then he’d hire her to be on-camera,” the employee said. “He then said if it was a man he’d think about whether he could sit down for a baseball game with him and not get annoyed of him. If he could, then he’d hire him.”

Carlson’s lawsuit, which was filed in the Superior Court of New Jersey, alleges that she was eventually fired for refusing Ailes’ sexual advancements.

Fox News did not respond to a request for comment for this story.



I don't know why you'd bring up incidents that are around 20 years old. Can't you come up with something a bit more contemporary? I mean, after all ...
Oh, wait - I just now noticed the names. This whole time I was thinking that you were posting about the Clinton White House.
My mistake.
Never mind.
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   7/8/2016, 11:20 am

Fox News CEO in deep trouble? Lawyer claims he demanded oral sex from girl as young as 16-years-old
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In a gag-inducing follow-up to the news that now former Fox & Friends co-host Gretchen Carlson has filed a bombshell lawsuit against Roger Ailes for sexual harassment and retaliation, her lawyer says they can barely keep up with the barrage of calls and emails from other women. From NYMag:
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Based on what Carlson’s camp is saying, it appears her lawsuit could unleash a torrent of new allegations from other women. “He’s the Bill Cosby of media,” Carlson’s lawyer, Nancy Erika Smith, told me today. “My office is being deluged with calls and website contacts from women. I don’t even have a count anymore … Women as young as 16 who said he demanded oral sex. Another said during an interview that he said, ‘Take off your bra.’ She was devastated.” Smith told me she’s forwarding the names of women who agreed to be interviewed to journalists. The New York Times currently has multiple reporters working on the story.

So far, no women have gone on the record. But Carlson isn’t the first to publicly challenge the Fox chief. In my 2014 biography of Ailes, I reported three incidents where Ailes made inappropriate sexual comments at women in professional settings. One of the women, Randi Harrison, said that when she interviewed for a producing job at NBC in the early '80s, Ailes said he’d increase her salary by $100 a week in exchange for sex. After the incident, Ailes’s friend John Huddy tracked Harrison down and asked her at a bar if she was wearing a wire.

According to CNN, Carlson and her attorney want to get Ailes under oath and plan to call at least one other Fox News employee to testify:
Paging Gloria Allred....
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PostSubject: Re: Republicans War on Women   3/9/2017, 6:13 pm

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be Thy name, we beseech Thee; give us the strength to perform Thy will, and save us from this rampant stupidity.

Amen




https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/inspired-life/wp/2017/03/08/some-women-are-striking-from-smiling-today-heres-why/?utm_term=.5194d098c9e5

Some women are striking from smiling today. Here’s why.

By Michael Alison Chandler March 8

The “Day Without a Woman” strike on Wednesday may mean a day with fewer smiles.
While not every one plans to skip work, many who want to show solidarity with the growing feminist movement said they plan to strike from unpaid work that women disproportionately do, including cooking, cleaning and, some said, smiling.
More specifically, fake smiling.
Some feminists say the happy face they sport by habit — or on command — is a form of unpaid “emotional labor.” They do it to be pleasant, to be likable, or because someone told them to do it: “Why don’t you smile!”
They do it because if they don’t, there’s a name for it (Resting Bitch Face).
]“From the time you are small, as a woman  you are encouraged to put on a friendly face,” said Ariana Ascherl, an activist in Anne Arundel, Md., who is organizing a rally in front of the Supreme Court Wednesday with the Democratic Socialists of America.
On her day of action, she also plans to abstain from doing laundry and volunteering at her daughter’s school. She is also trying to be more conscious about how and when she smiles. “I’ve been accused of having a resting nice face,” she said. “Social conditioning is a hard thing to break.”
The “Day Without a Woman” strike was organized by leaders of the the massive post-inauguration women’s marches to raise awareness about the ways in which women drive the economy. The organizers collaborated with feminist groups behind the International Women’s Strike, which was planned with a similar goal, to hold both actions on International Women’s Day Wednesday.  The smile strike was listed as an action by a group backing the international strike, but many women have picked up on the idea.
“Stop telling women to smile” has become a rallying point for feminists who say that men who cajole or prompt women to smile in public are asserting control.
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