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PostSubject: Fetus:It's What's For Dinner   1/28/2012, 5:21 pm

Who says right-wing kooks don't believe in consumer protection...
Oklahoma Republican seeks to ban use of aborted fetuses in food products
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Well, it's good to know that lawmakers are finally cracking down on This Problem
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A bill introduced in the Oklahoma Legislature has some folks scratching their heads, as it prohibits "the manufacture or sale of food or products which use aborted human fetuses."

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No person or entity shall manufacture or knowingly sell food or any other product intended for human consumption which contains aborted human fetuses in the ingredients or which used aborted human fetuses in the research or development of any of the ingredients.
The genius behind this bill, State Sen. Ralph Shortey, (R-Of course), explained his rationale:

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The senator says that his research shows there are companies in the food industry that have used human stem cells to help them research and develop products, including artificial flavorings.

"I don't know if it is happening in Oklahoma, it may be, it may not be. What I am saying is that if it does happen then we are not going to allow it to manufacture here."

Frankly, I'm appalled at this attempt to restrict our personal liberties. Who doesn't enjoy a fetus pop on a hot summer day? Or a nice bowl of cream of fetus on a cold winter night? What about folks who enjoy deep fried fetus on a stick at the county fair? Do we really want to prevent McDonald's from introducing the McFetus? That's not very free market-y of the senator. Come on, man, this is America. Our founding fathers didn't discover America just so we could not enjoy our favorite fetus recipes in the privacy of our own homes.

Maybe Oklahoma shouldn't have been so quick to ban that other non-existent creeping epidemic: sharia law in U.S. courts. I hear the terrorists don't like aborted fetuses either.
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PostSubject: Re: Fetus:It's What's For Dinner   1/29/2012, 6:31 am

Great law.
Gotta nip these things in the bud.
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PostSubject: Re: Fetus:It's What's For Dinner   2/2/2012, 10:04 am

It's a poorly thought through attempt at banning stem cell research:

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Companies like Pepsi, Frito-Lay, Trident-- they take their food flavor/food additive/food everything very seriously. Every new flavor of pop or chip or chewing gum you have encountered is the end result science. They used science to determine/create/execute the way the product smells, tastes, feels, packaged, shelf-life, and a gazillion things I have not mentioned because I dont know everything.

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Anyway, this 'science' isnt just mixing a bunch of stuff together, taking it to a group of folks, and asking them if it tastes good. Its science, which means it involves PCR and cell culture and kits from Invitrogen and Qiagen and such. Lab work like what I do every day.

One of the cells that I use literally every day are HEK 293 cells (technically, HEK 293T cells). They are great work horses for growing up stocks of HIV-1 to use in experiments, or to grow proteins to radiolabel, hard workers and really easy to manipulate.

Im not the only person on Planet Earth who uses these these guys-- lots of people do. I would hazard to guess that most labs who do any kind of mammalian cell tissue culture use 293 cells. Which means, of course, that some of the labs Pepsi uses, like Senomyx, use 293 cells:

Senomyx is discovering and developing innovative flavor ingredients for the food, beverage, and ingredient supply industries using our unique proprietary technologies. We believe that our novel flavors, flavor enhancers, and bitter blockers will enable our collaborators to improve the nutritional profile of their products and/or achieve a competitive advantage maintaining or enhancing taste.

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There is relatively no content to the bill, except homeboy wants to ban any food where 293s had any role, no matter how remote:

No person or entity shall manufacture or knowingly sell food or any other product intended for human consumption which contains aborted human fetuses in the ingredients or which used aborted human fetuses in the research or development of any of the ingredients.

If you destroy everything that involves 293 cells, you destroy 40 years worth of biomedical research and centuries of future research, including research going on right down the street of the OK Capitol at OUHSC and OMRF (example: That new fangled gene therapy stuff that has been treating/curing shit left and right? We use 293 cells to grow up the viruses needed for these treatments).
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