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PostSubject: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   5/22/2011, 4:35 pm

This movie is up for the Palme d'or, the same award won by Michael ‘Two Dinners’ Moore for Fahrenheit 911.
I guess we now know for sure what the movie critics consider to be ‘art’.




http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2011/05/20/fox-411-cannes-horrified-viewers-flee-antonio-banderas-new-flick-extreme-sex/?test=faces
Horrified Viewers Flee Antonio Banderas' New Flick Due to Extreme Sex, Violence Scenes

Spanish director Pedro Almodovar's latest thriller, "The Skin I Live In," had filmgoers fleeing the theater Thursday night at its gala premiere at the Cannes Film Festival, due to some aggressively violent and disturbing content.
The film, which stars Antonio Banderas and budding actress Spanish actress Elena Anaya, focuses on a mad but brilliant surgeon (Banderas) who kidnaps a man who raped his daughter.
The doctor's daughter killed herself from the grief and it drives him to take very drastic measures. This is where it gets complicated and disturbing.
Banderas then gives the rapist a sex change and transplants his deceased daughter's face onto his body.
He later has sex with the man he has brutally experimented on and turned into a woman.
The movie also contained several disturbing rape scenes and nudity.
Guests, among them a group of sweepstakes winners flown specially to Cannes by Stella Artois from the U.S. to enjoy a once in a lifetime movie premiere were horrified by the experience. That group of Americans left and did not come back to the theater following a particularly violent rape scene in the middle of the film.
A second exodus occurred when Banderas' character had relations with his victim at the end of the film, when even some of the French, who have a reputation for a higher tolerance for disturbing themes than Americans, had had enough.
"It was the fact that the victim was supposed to look like the doctor's daughter. I couldn't stop picturing the girl in the beginning of the movie when he was in bed with her, with him, later," said filmgoer Marie-Elise Martin who left three-quarters of the way through the picture.
The latest from the Spanish director is based on a French novel, "Tarantula," and the hometown crowd for the most part (the ones who stayed in the theater) did give Almodovar a five minute standing ovation for the adaptation.
Critics have also fallen in love with the upsetting film and are placing it in contention for the highest Cannes honor, the Palme d'or.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   5/22/2011, 7:23 pm

happy jack wrote:
[b]This movie is up for the Palme d'or, the same award won by Michael ‘Two Dinners’ Moore for Fahrenheit 911.
I guess we now know for sure what the movie critics consider to be ‘art’.[/b
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No mention of Moore in the article but he's in with some pretty good company who have won it......Directors like Cecil B DeMille,Orson Welles,Scorsese,Billy Wilder and Coppola,among others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palme_d%27Or#Palme_d.27Or_.281975-present.29

What exactly does this have to do with Michael Moore that would incite you to post it with the headline you chose?
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   5/22/2011, 8:30 pm

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happy jack wrote:
This movie is up for the Palme d'or, the same award won by Michael ‘Two Dinners’ Moore for Fahrenheit 911.
I guess we now know for sure what the movie critics consider to be ‘art’.[/b
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No mention of Moore in the article but he's in with some pretty good company who have won it......Directors like Cecil B DeMille,Orson Welles,Scorsese,Billy Wilder and Coppola,among others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palme_d%27Or#Palme_d.27Or_.281975-present.29

What exactly does this have to do with Michael Moore that would incite you to post it with the headline you chose?
Those directors won back when people actually had standards.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   5/22/2011, 8:48 pm

happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:

No mention of Moore in the article but he's in with some pretty good company who have won it......Directors like Cecil B DeMille,Orson Welles,Scorsese,Billy Wilder and Coppola,among others.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palme_d%27Or#Palme_d.27Or_.281975-present.29

What exactly does this have to do with Michael Moore that would incite you to post it with the headline you chose?
Those directors won back when people actually had standards.[/b]
I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with Michael Moore. You still haven't answered. What exactly does this have to do with Michael Moore that would incite you to post it with the headline you chose?
Has it even dawned on you that the 2 films aren't even in the same genre?
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   5/22/2011, 9:31 pm

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I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with Michael Moore.
Nothing, other than the fact that the same people who consider his work to be outstanding also consider this new work to be outstanding.
What does that tell you?
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   5/23/2011, 8:04 am

happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:

I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with Michael Moore.
[b]Nothing, other than the fact that the same people who consider his work to be outstanding also consider this new work to be outstanding.
What does that tell you?[/b
That you're probably a big fan of those blowem up real good action flicks and comedies like "Dude,Where's my car" that require no thought or intellectual understanding and that it would be useless to prolong this thread.

End of discussion Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   5/24/2011, 12:37 pm

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happy jack wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:

I'm still trying to figure out what this has to do with Michael Moore.
Nothing, other than the fact that the same people who consider his work to be outstanding also consider this new work to be outstanding.
What does that tell you?[/b
That you're probably a big fan of those blowem up real good action flicks and comedies like "Dude,Where's my car" that require no thought or intellectual understanding and that it would be useless to prolong this thread.

End of discussion Sleep
As you look down your nose at those "blowem up real good action flicks and comedies like "Dude,Where's my car", you effectively elevate those 'intellectual' and 'important' films, ones which include scenes such as:

'Banderas then gives the rapist a sex change and transplants his deceased daughter's face onto his body.
He later has sex with the man he has brutally experimented on and turned into a woman.'


A film in which a man has surrogate sex with his dead daughter apparently fits your idea of 'art'.
That explains a lot, actually.
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PostSubject: Re: Michael Moore in fine company - liar meets rapist   4/23/2012, 9:13 pm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/film/2012/apr/23/michael-moore-phone-hacking-fox-news

Michael Moore predicts phone-hacking scandal will spread to Fox News

Documentary film-maker has 'gut feeling' investigations will reveal phone hacking at Murdoch subsidiary Fox News



That is one gut I will not argue with.
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