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PostSubject: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 11:50 am

I'm sure you all have read about one potential-contributer to society, an HONOR student, cycling along innocently, and was in the wrong place at the wrong time. Ultimately, less than 2 days later, rather than mourn, cry, being overwhelmed in dealing with the death, which I don't say they didn't "in their own way," but why the rush for a lawsuit?

If this were my child...I wouldn't want to deal with calling relatives, friends...I would be in a corner crying my eyes out, or so mad...I would go seek the killer myself...I wouldn't rest until I found the killer.

No, instead, I think these parents had one thing on their mind before even making funeral arrangements. Don't get me wrong, we all have our own individual ways of dealing with death.

It's just this: This "lawsuit" would be the least on my mind if this were my child...I would want to be left alone and dwell and mourn...I wouldn't be visiting a lawyer or asking a lawyer friend that is politically connected to CROOK COUNTY as an tax-property appeals officer with a lawfirm on the side that would benefit alongside me, to file the lawsuit of wrongful death involving CROOK County Sheriffs' Dept., and the Dolton Police.

Especially when the investigation just began, and they know no facts for sure.

Especially when the child just died two or three days before. The lawsuit came first, "while making funeral arrangements".

So much regard for human life. So much regard for MONEY.

I first read the facts in the Sun-Times with an entirely different heading regarding the lawsuit.

Then I read NWITimes.com's article.

Then I read the ChicagoTribune.com article, plus the breaking news as to why his father filed a lawsuit immediately.

Most had a common story, but the real culprit that bothers me is the facts presented by the Sun-Times in Chicago:

I know for a fact that Greenwood Avenue, north of Sibley Blvd. has sidewalks. Facts in all stories do not nitpick whether or not he was riding the bicycle on the street or sidewalk, but that doesn't really matter in this case.

You must yield to all and everyone on the road.

What I want to ask you all, as parents, would you have jumped this fast to a lawsuit, or grieved and made it your goal to assist and dissect and wait for the investigation...?

I don't think I would have had time to think about a lawsuit before burying my son and grieving.

How would you guys handle it?

Here are different excerpts, versions, reporting...but all but one - the ChicagoSun-Times.com left out an important detail that may give reason why the parents did not hesitate to grieve and rushed in my opinion, to file the lawsuit:

Here's the NWITimes.com article:

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http://www.nwitimes.com/news/local/illinois/article_7d5e7b2c-afae-5cb1-92ba-ce30d75cbc7a.html

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Family of Dolton teen who was killed files suit against police
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Font Size:Default font sizeLarger font size.DOLTON | The family of a Dolton teen who was killed Sunday by a driver fleeing police has filed suit against Cook County and the village claiming officers caused the death.

The lawsuit alleges that Dolton and Cook County sheriff's police acted recklessly by engaging in a high-speed pursuit without permission through a residential area, ignoring traffic signals.

Meanwhile, police still are searching for the driver of the gray Hyundai Sonata that struck and killed Kenyatta Brack, 16, of the 1000 block of 150th Place. The teen was preparing to start his sophomore year at Thornwood High School this week.

According to the Cook County Sheriff's Department, sheriff's police were eastbound on the Bishop Ford Freeway in an unmarked vehicle when a gray Hyundai Sonata sped past them. Officers saw the car leave the expressway, but they were not in pursuit of the vehicle.

Police followed the vehicle, keeping a distance, the Sheriff's Department said. Officers got behind the vehicle to check the license plate number and turned on their emergency lights to try to stop the vehicle, but the driver fled at a high rate of speed, officers said.

In a release issued Sunday night, Cook County sheriff's spokesman Steve Patterson said the officers who initially saw the Hyundai were not in pursuit. They did go to the same exit, but kept distance between themselves and the other driver.

"Officers did not engage in a high-speed chase, but instead called for assistance from nearby departments," Patterson said. "The officers never went faster than 35 mph."

He said the officers were about two blocks behind the Sonata when it struck Brack, who was riding his bike at the time. The impact sent him into the air before he landed and was hit by a second motorist.

The driver continued at a high rate of speed, striking another vehicle two blocks away from the first accident scene. He then fled on foot from the car, police said.

Officials from Dolton could not be reached for comment Wednesday.

Sheriff's police said Monday morning that a police canine was able to track the scent of the driver to a home two blocks from the fatal crash scene. People at the home said they heard dogs barking but knew nothing.

Brack was pronounced dead at 8:16 p.m. Sunday at St. Margaret Mercy Healthcare Centers in Hammond. The cause of death was listed as blunt force injuries.

The attorney representing Brack's family, Larry Rogers Jr., disputes the Sheriff Department's account of the events.

"Several witnesses have come forward refuting police officer claims that they were not involved in a chase," he said. "These witnesses are positive that they saw the police chasing.

"Chasing a vehicle through a residential area because it was speeding violates well established safe police practices and procedures because it places innocent men, women and children at risk of injury or death over a rather petty offense. Those police procedures are specifically designed to prevent this very tragedy, and the failure to follow them led to Kenyatta's death."
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Chicago Tribune's version:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-dolton-teen-lawsuit-0818-20100817,0,3442305.story

The family of a Dolton teenager killed after he was run over by a car being chased by Cook County sheriff's police filed a lawsuit Tuesday against the county and the village of Dolton for their roles in the crash, the family's attorney said.

Larry R. Rogers Jr., attorney for the family of Kenyatta Brack Jr., said the suit charges that Cook County sheriff's officers and Dolton police officers acted recklessly in pursuing a suspect through residential areas of Dolton, engaging in a high-speed pursuit without proper authorization.

"Several witnesses have come forward refuting police officer claims that they were not involved in a chase," Rogers said in a statement. "These witnesses are positive that they saw the police chasing this vehicle."

Brack Jr. was riding his bike to meet his mother Aug. 15 when the driver of a gray Hyundai Sonata that was fleeing the police struck and killed him near Greenwood Avenue and 154th Street. Authorities have said the officers were not chasing the vehicle, but rather following it at a safe distance and speed.


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"It makes no sense that an officer trailing at 35 mph, as the officers claim, could keep up with a vehicle traveling 70 mph," Rogers said. "It makes no sense that the officers would activate their lights and sirens if they were three blocks behind the vehicle, as they claim."

Rogers said he is looking into who else may bear liability in Brack Jr.'s death.

"We're very interested in identifying the specific officers that were involved," he said. "Either they didn't get the proper authorization or someone erroneously authorized the chase that was unwarranted for what amounts to a speeding infraction. Kenyatta died in this occurrence, and his family wants the truth."

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Another article from the Chicago Tribune, this time from the mouth of the father:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/southsouthwest/ct-met-dolton-teen-killed-0817-20100816,0,5504688.story

By Andy Grimm, Tribune reporter

8:15 p.m. CDT, August 16, 2010
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The father of a 16-year-old Dolton teen killed by a hit-and-run driver who was fleeing police is questioning the account of the pursuit given by the Cook County sheriff's department.

Police on Monday still were looking for the driver of a gray Hyundai Sonata who fled from his car after he swerved off Greenwood Avenue near 154th Street and struck Kenyatta Brack as he rode his bike Sunday night. The impact launched the teen airborne into oncoming traffic.

Sheriff's department spokesman Steve Patterson said investigators had contacted the registered owner of the car and were looking for a "person of interest."



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As he made funeral plans for his son Monday, Kenyatta Brack Sr. questioned why the driver was traveling more than 70 mph if Cook County sheriff's police who had tried to pull him over were blocks behind him and never went faster than 35, as authorities have said.

"How can you really follow somebody from two blocks away? That doesn't make sense. You have to be speeding to chase somebody going 70 miles an hour," said Brack Sr.

"It was a high-speed chase. Why not say it? We understand what it is. High-speed chase, you're not supposed to do it."

Sheriff's officers were driving on the Bishop Ford Freeway before 8 p.m. when the Sonata passed their unmarked car at "a very high rate of speed," Patterson said.

"The officers saw the car exit the expressway but were not in pursuit," a release from the sheriff's department states. "They did go to the same exit, but kept distance between themselves and the other driver."

The officers followed the car, which was obeying stop signs and the speed limit at the time, and were able to get behind the car on residential streets in Dolton, Patterson said.

When officers turned on their emergency lights for a traffic stop, the driver sped away, Patterson said. Radio tapes show county officers again did not give chase, but they called for help from nearby departments and continued following the car, Patterson said.

A Dolton police squad car attempted to "box in" the fleeing car as it sped south on Greenwood, where the car hit another vehicle, swerved off the road and into Brack, the sheriff's office said.

Dolton police spokesman Guy Lindsay said his department could not confirm details about what led up to the crash.

Asked if a Dolton officer was trying to box in the fleeing Sonata when it swerved and hit Brack, Lindsay said, "We have no information to confirm that was the case. That (account) is coming from the sheriff's department."

Brack's father questions whether any pursuit was justified.

"When you chase people, you put other people's lives in danger," said Brack Sr. "This wasn't a heist or anything like that, was it? Did he rob a bank? Did he pull a gun out? Did he shoot at police? None of this occurred so why … were they even chasing him?"

Brack and a friend were riding their bicycles to meet Brack's mother, who got off the bus after work just a few blocks from the crash scene, his father said.

"My son's friend who was with him, he saw the cop. And the cop was right behind (the Sonata)," Brack Sr. said. "They were right there, speeding."

Patterson said authorities were still conducting interviews and were not aware until late Monday that the friend witnessed the crash.

Brack's mother, Selean Turner Brack, said she saw Dolton squad cars racing down Greenwood as she walked toward home. Her son's friend rode up to her on his bike and told her Brack had been hit. She could see her son's body surrounded by police cars.

"The way his body was laying, I knew he was gone," she said.

Brack, a sophomore at Thornridge High School, turned 16 on Wednesday, the start of the Islamic holy month of Ramadan, when Muslims are to observe a dawn-to-sunset fast. Brack Sr.'s last words to his son were encouragement not to break the fast even though the two woke after sunrise Sunday and missed their morning meal.

"When he was going to meet his mother, he hadn't eaten all day," Brack Sr. said.

"That's the one thing that gives me some peace … that in the month of Ramadan, the gates of paradise are opened to the faithful."

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And...now the details....from the Chicago-Suntimes:

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/2615680,CST-NWS-lawyer19.article

Ethical conflict in suing county?
Board of Review commissioner represents dead cyclist family
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August 19, 2010

BY LISA DONOVAN Cook County Reporter ldonovan@suntimes.com
He was elected to sit on the Cook County board that hears tax appeals, but Larry Rogers Jr. put on his lawyer hat this week and is now representing a family suing the county in a high-profile wrongful death case.

While several officials are calling this a conflict of interest, Rogers isn’t violating any ethics ordinances.

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Larry Rogers Jr., who was eledted to the Cook County Board of Review, doesn't see a conflict of interest in representing a family who is suing the county for wrongful death.
(John H. White/Sun-Times)


"There's nothing illegal about it, but I wouldn't do it — it would make me uncomfortable,” said Cook County Commissioner Gregg Goslin, a Northwest suburban Republican. “He is a prominent Cook County elected official, it just seems to me why would you involve yourself?”

Rogers, a Democrat who earns $100,000 annually sitting on the Cook County Board of Review, which hears property tax appeals on behalf of home and business owners, says he doesn’t see even the appearance of a conflict.

"I don't serve in any role —as a commissioner — that makes any decisions as it relates to the decisions of lawsuits. We have a narrow focus of hearing (property) tax appeals," Rogers told the Sun-Times, a day after the suit, which he signed off on, was filed in Cook County Circuit Court.

But he acknowledges his law firm would profit — and by extension Rogers himself — if the county loses the case or decides to settle the suit, which seeks at least $50,000 in damages, out of court.

Rogers said he was approached about handling this case by friends of Kenyatta Brack Sr. and Selean Turner Brack, the parents suing Cook County and the Village of Dolton over the hit-and-run crash that killed their cyclist son in the south suburb this weekend.

Family believes Kenyatta Brack Jr., 16 and a Thornridge High School honor student was killed by a still at-large driver trying to elude Cook County sheriff’s deputies and Dolton police officers on Sunday night.

Cook County Commissioner Liz Gorman, a southwest suburban Republican, said this underscores the need to tighten ethics rules across the county.

“Unbelievable,” Gorman said, noting that she’s working with other commissioners on an ordinance that would prevent this.

“They have to figure out what hat they're going to wear. Are they going to be a representative at the board of review or are they going to represent someone suing the county?”
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 11:55 am

If you are the parent(s) of this child, would you be mourning so much, that the least on your mind would be to deal with a lawsuit first, then the funeral?

I wouldn't have the time to think of a lawsuit before I buried my child...

It's a mixed bag, I understand...I am not the parent.

Perhaps the media is influencing my mind.

How do you guys feel about it?
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 1:43 pm

I meant to say all other media outlets left out what the Sun-Times revealed.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 2:26 pm

Everyone handles grief in their own different way. The lawyer that is handling the case is pretty well respected. he's not some cheap fly-by-night ambulance chaser.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 3:10 pm

I'm amazed Ken Allen wasn't the attorney.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 3:50 pm

KarenT wrote:
I'm amazed Ken Allen wasn't the attorney.

Who is Ken Allen, Karen?

Also, I wanted to know everyone elses' feelings about filing a wrongful lawsuit before you bury your child.

I lost a couzin at age 15 who was on his own, homemade, dune-buggy driving on a two lane highway, and switched lanes just at the same time the man behind him switched lanes, and killed my cousin.

His organs are enabling others to live, and ironically, the same thing happened in the rural area in Missouri to the youngest brother he was about to take with him on the trip, and later died on a three-wheeler climbing a hill, and his ATV flipped back, the handle bar penetrated his forehead.

Point is, my aunt didn't bother suing the first time when the wealthy guy changed lanes and hit my cousin at the time I was the same age.

Dean died on life support. The thing is, my aunt didn't blame the driver....she still - 30 years later still participates in a grievance-counseling cirlcle...but what I am trying to say is, she didn't sue the man.

She accepted what happened and focused on her grief.

She lost two sons in some same manner, but didn't sue anyone where in the first case, she could have, and won millions. She realized her son had no business being on a two lane highway, yet she had the opportunity to sue and win.

I just want to know if you guys would have filed suit like this couple, and I say this without prejudice.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 3:54 pm

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Everyone handles grief in their own different way. The lawyer that is handling the case is pretty well respected. he's not some cheap fly-by-night ambulance chaser.

Doesn't it bother you that he is a tax-appeal officer with Crook County, and has a law firm on the side that will enrich from it?

He gets paid $100,000 a year. I really don't have a problem with who represents the family if they so desire to file a lawsuit before the child is even buried, but don't you smell some kind of greediness on behalf of the person they hired as a lawyer?

Political power, and the dateline...how can I feel sorry for this child, when the parents immediately contact a CROOK County politician with a lawfirm on the side that looks like Stroger?

Really, Artie, the question is: Would you take the same actions as these parents did before the child's feet went cold?
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 3:59 pm

I really want to know how you feel emotionally about this promising young man's life taken away...and the parents, in my eyes file a lawsuit, before finalizing funeral arrangements.

I want to know if YOU parents would expect to react the same way.

I know I wouldn't.

I would grieve, do what is necessary - even if it means having to ask others to call family and friends...and just cry and grieve.

The least on my mind would be blaming someone. That would come later in the 5 stages - anger.

So, you would do what they did?
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 4:54 pm

UrRight wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
Everyone handles grief in their own different way. The lawyer that is handling the case is pretty well respected. he's not some cheap fly-by-night ambulance chaser.

Doesn't it bother you that he is a tax-appeal officer with Crook County, and has a law firm on the side that will enrich from it?
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He gets paid $100,000 a year. I really don't have a problem with who represents the family if they so desire to file a lawsuit before the child is even buried, but don't you smell some kind of greediness on behalf of the person they hired as a lawyer?
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Political power, and the dateline...how can I feel sorry for this child, when the parents immediately contact a CROOK County politician with a lawfirm on the side that looks like Stroger?
It has nothing to do with Stroger.
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Really, Artie, the question is: Would you take the same actions as these parents did before the child's feet went cold?
Maybe. The sooner you hire someone to look out for your interests the better.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 7:39 pm

I don't see myself hiring a lawyer. Kenneth Allen is an ambulance chaser from Valpo.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 8:23 pm

KarenT wrote:
I don't see myself hiring a lawyer. Kenneth Allen is an ambulance chaser from Valpo.

That's how I feel this Roger guy is doing. I see Artie's point, and understand the underlying reason of his opinion, bbut my opinion is, I wouldn't rush to judgement, because I would be too devasted to even think about legallities.

There's plenty of time after the mourning period, the several stages before you become angry.

The thing is, I believe this Crook County accessor appeals officer is compromising his stance by agreeing to sue the very crook County he is working for, and using that as an influence.

Oh, hell, I give up...they are all crooks.

I personally believe the family is looking for a free ticket out of the ghetto.

I wouldn't personally file a lawsuit before thinking of my son first.

It is unethical what they are doing, and it is unethical what this stupid Rogers is doing.

He will now be known as an ambulance chaser.

What bothers me...the father lamented on the Islamic not-eating day.

As far back as I remember, I would always wonder when someone died, "Did they get to eat what they wanted?" Ya kknow, the guys the execute on death row, they get lobster, whatever.

This kid got nothing to eat all day. That's animal cruelty if you ask me....

Making someone fast for a month to show alliance to the gate of "heaven".

All that crosses my mind is, that poor kid couldn't eat all day and for what? A gateway, guaranteed ticket to heaven?

You can't eat in the grave, you can't spend money in the grave, you can't take anything with you, so the only thing I keep thinking about is....what the heck am I sacrificing for on earth to earn a straight ticket to heaven?

Nothing...cuz, once you are dead, you are dead...and you can't take it with ya. The least of all - eat like it ain't gonna be a "tomorrow".

Fasting is not a ticket to heaven. Neither is avoiding meat on Fridays in the Catholic Church...it's just plain stupid.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 8:27 pm

I usually eat once a day. Will I go to heaven?
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/19/2010, 8:36 pm

UrRight wrote:
KarenT wrote:
I don't see myself hiring a lawyer. Kenneth Allen is an ambulance chaser from Valpo.

That's how I feel this Roger guy is doing. I see Artie's point, and understand the underlying reason of his opinion, bbut my opinion is, I wouldn't rush to judgement, because I would be too devasted to even think about legallities.

There's plenty of time after the mourning period, the several stages before you become angry.
Not necessarily. The sooner you can start having someone looking out for your interests, accumulating evidence and statements the better.

It's a very simple process and wouldn't impose on any mourning. The father signs an agreement with the lawyer and it's over. If anything it helps in the mourning process,knowing that your son's memory is being protected and that whoever is ultimately responsible will be held accountable.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 7:01 am

Artie60438 wrote:
It's a very simple process and wouldn't impose on any mourning. The father signs an agreement with the lawyer and it's over. If anything it helps in the mourning process,knowing that your son's memory is being protected and that whoever is ultimately responsible will be held accountable.
What a crock of crap. These parents are looking out for themselves and a quick settlement. If you read the story, NOBODY knows the driver of the car, but EVERYBODY agrees the pOlice were chasing the car. Typical 'hood silence. These parents cashing in on their son's death. There is time for evidence and an investigation, and eventual lawsuits.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 8:36 am

BigWhiteGuy wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
It's a very simple process and wouldn't impose on any mourning. The father signs an agreement with the lawyer and it's over. If anything it helps in the mourning process,knowing that your son's memory is being protected and that whoever is ultimately responsible will be held accountable.
What a crock of crap. These parents are looking out for themselves and a quick settlement. If you read the story, NOBODY knows the driver of the car, but EVERYBODY agrees the pOlice were chasing the car. Typical 'hood silence. These parents cashing in on their son's death. There is time for evidence and an investigation, and eventual lawsuits.
You obviously have no idea about the proper way to pursue litigation. The sooner you hire legal representation in matters such as these,the better.The longer you wait the more chance that memories fade,evidence gets misplaced,etc.

If this was a white family that lost a child this thread would probably never even gotten started.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 8:56 am

Thing is, the car was registered to someone who lent it to someone. Then that "someone" ran off. The hit and run killer.

So, to whomever the car owners lent it to, why are they not speaking out?

There is no doubt in my mind the neighborhood kids know who did it. I lived in Dolton many years after it went 90% black...I know how they walked in the gas station across from the projects on Cottage Grove & Lincoln Avenue smoking mariquana, and the owner told them no smoking.

LOL...grass, weed,

The owner knew better than to call the cops, cuz his life would be in danger from those kids that lived across the street in what once was beautiful condos. Now it's free housing to drug addicts.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 9:00 am

Did anyone hear or see on the news about cops chasing and busting/killing in Calument City last night?

I missed it...so I guess it'll be posted as an update somewhere. There wasn't any mention of it this a.m. on-line, in the newspapers.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 9:36 am

Artie60438 wrote:
BigWhiteGuy wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
It's a very simple process and wouldn't impose on any mourning. The father signs an agreement with the lawyer and it's over. If anything it helps in the mourning process,knowing that your son's memory is being protected and that whoever is ultimately responsible will be held accountable.
What a crock of crap. These parents are looking out for themselves and a quick settlement. If you read the story, NOBODY knows the driver of the car, but EVERYBODY agrees the pOlice were chasing the car. Typical 'hood silence. These parents cashing in on their son's death. There is time for evidence and an investigation, and eventual lawsuits.
You obviously have no idea about the proper way to pursue litigation. The sooner you hire legal representation in matters such as these,the better.The longer you wait the more chance that memories fade,evidence gets misplaced,etc.

If this was a white family that lost a child this thread would probably never even gotten started.
Ooooo, race baiting. Pretty low, pretty low.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 9:50 am

BigWhiteGuy wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:
BigWhiteGuy wrote:
What a crock of crap. These parents are looking out for themselves and a quick settlement. If you read the story, NOBODY knows the driver of the car, but EVERYBODY agrees the pOlice were chasing the car. Typical 'hood silence. These parents cashing in on their son's death. There is time for evidence and an investigation, and eventual lawsuits.
You obviously have no idea about the proper way to pursue litigation. The sooner you hire legal representation in matters such as these,the better.The longer you wait the more chance that memories fade,evidence gets misplaced,etc.

If this was a white family that lost a child this thread would probably never even gotten started.
Ooooo, race baiting. Pretty low, pretty low.
Race baiting? These are your words "Typical 'hood silence. Now who's doing the race baiting?
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 9:58 am

Glad I don't live in that neighborhood.
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/20/2010, 11:03 am

Artie60438 wrote:
BigWhiteGuy wrote:
Artie60438 wrote:

You obviously have no idea about the proper way to pursue litigation. The sooner you hire legal representation in matters such as these,the better.The longer you wait the more chance that memories fade,evidence gets misplaced,etc.

If this was a white family that lost a child this thread would probably never even gotten started.
Ooooo, race baiting. Pretty low, pretty low.
Race baiting? These are your words "Typical 'hood silence. Now who's doing the race baiting?
You are!
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/21/2010, 8:32 am

Well, another police pursuit in Cal City that led to a group of stupid kids pointing a gun at a woman driving alongside of her.

She flagged down a cop nearby and told them they were in the McDonald parking lot, on Sibley Blvd.

Fact is, the car was reportedly car-jacked from Chicago. The cop pursued them through various neighborhoods where they crashed it, ejecting all five occupants.

The media only identified two so far dead, at age 15 yrs. old; the other three in critical condition.

Now, this happened at 1:15 a.m. The girl identified was from Blue Island.

15 years old.

What kind of parents raise kids to be out at that hour?

Morons!!!

What parent didn't know where their kid got a car from?
MORONS!

What parents would allow kids out at that hour of the night?

ANIMALS.

This time I have no sympathy. Good riddance! I actually hope the other three don't make it.

I guess Qualkinbush thinks she needs to lay off more cops. She's a moron, and the city council is a joke!

Of course, it's NOT THEIR HOOD...
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/21/2010, 8:40 am

Wonder if the parents will file a lawsuit saying the cops caused the crash...

The driver lost control and hit a medium and light pole on Western Avenue...it's the cop(s) fault, right?

If the cops were not chasing them, they wouldn't have crashed, right? And that gun...well, "We were just showing off our new toy, and a we weren't the ones that car-jacked that car....it was loaned to us by someone else. We didn't know"
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PostSubject: Re: Early Lawsuit on DOLTON TEEN; Police Pursuit...Parents' Pursuit   8/21/2010, 11:16 am

UrRight wrote:
Well, another police pursuit in Cal City that led to a group of stupid kids pointing a gun at a woman driving alongside of her.

She flagged down a cop nearby and told them they were in the McDonald parking lot, on Sibley Blvd.

Fact is, the car was reportedly car-jacked from Chicago. The cop pursued them through various neighborhoods where they crashed it, ejecting all five occupants.

The media only identified two so far dead, at age 15 yrs. old; the other three in critical condition.

This time I have no sympathy. Good riddance! I actually hope the other three don't make it.
I agree. This was a happy ending. No one got hurt but the thugs. Kudos to the woman who pointed out the car to the Police.
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