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PostSubject: Obama imagines a world without nukes, so who’s got 'em?   Obama imagines a world without nukes, so who’s got 'em? Empty4/8/2010, 5:02 pm

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1531http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1531

Most of you probably caught this article off Yahoo.com.

My question is...what is the purpose of him signing a treaty with Russia, when we don't know what's out there?

I can only imagine what the family of of the 9/11 feel when he also changed the terminology of "terrorits". Who does Obama care more for?

I just don't understand his radical thinking. He needs to get home and act like a POTUS and take care of our country.

Iran is already telling him if we start anything, our American troops will be killed. Wasn't enough going on with Bush at the beginning, and now we're in war in Afghanistan and that leader is calling him a whimp with no experience as a politician.

With that remark, I say pull our troops, all of them back home, and double the nuclear weapons. We have the intelligence to take care of ourselves. We no longer are wanted or appreciated for building democracy in other countries, when it's a never-ending effort. All they are doing is taking our blood, lives and money. I swear he is on their side, and somehow is a damn MUSLIM.

Why, he wants to dictate to the world and I bet you he'll be in that position after his first term. He has sneaky ways of leaving the American people hanging while pursuing his real ambition...

He needs to go. He has not only divided our country, he further divides the world. I hope all of you that bought his speeches don't regret it, but you will.



President Obama says he hopes to create a world without nuclear weapons. He campaigned on that message and, this week, shifted military policy to limit America's possible use of them in retaliation to non-nuclear attacks. He hopes that other countries will follow the U.S. lead, as well as the incentives laid out in international treaties, and limit their use and development of nukes.

On Thursday, President Obama and his Russian counterpart, Dmitry Medvedev, signed a historic pact in Prague to scale back their nuclear arsenals. Under the new accord - an update of the Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty, or START, first proposed by President Reagan and first ratified in 1991 - the countries will reduce their stockpiles of nuclear warheads by 30 percent and their inventory of nuclear launchers by half.

If Obama hopes to help create a nuclear weapon-free world, however, the real challenge lies beyond America's former Cold War enemy. Next he'll need to get other nuclear-armed countries to follow in the path of the START deal and scale back their own arsenals.

Where are the bombs and how many are there?

In addition to the United States and Russia, three countries are officially recognized as a part of the "nuclear club": China, France, and the United Kingdom.

According to the Arms Control Association, a nonpartisan research group that advocates arms control, America and Russia are far and away the biggest nuclear powers. Russia has 2,787 strategic warheads (weapons placed in long-range delivery systems) and about 2,000 tactical warheads (weapons with a shorter range and lower payload). When you include non-operational weapons, Russia's total stockpile is about 8,000 warheads.

The United States has 2,126 strategic warheads and about 500 tactical ones, with a total stockpile of around 6,000. China - which has the world's largest conventional army - is a fledgling nuclear power with just 100 or 200 warheads, most of which are believed to be short-range. (International monitoring of China's nuclear arsenal is sketchy.) France has 350 nuclear warheads, and Britain has fewer than 160.

But there are also countries beyond the official "nuclear club" with nuclear weapons.

The all-but-official nuclear club

India and Pakistan each announced in 1998 that it had developed operational nuclear weapons. That inspired a flurry of activity from nonproliferation crusaders, given the two countries' history of bitter ethnic, religious, and nationalist rivalry. Current estimates of the nuclear stockpile of each nation, based on the amount of fissile material on hand to make them, are fewer than 100 warheads for India and 70 to 90 for Pakistan.

Israel has never officially confirmed or denied that it has nuclear weapons, because it does not want rivals in the Middle East to know anything about its capabilities. But its status as a nuclear power is an open secret, and a rough estimate ranges from 75 to 200 warheads.

Countries on the verge of going nuclear (if they haven't already)

North Korea has recently conducted both underground and missile-based nuclear tests, showing off what the communist dictatorship claims is a fully developed nuclear weapons program. But some observers have suggested that at least some of those displays were either faked or overhyped for propaganda. The secretive nature of Kim Jong Il's government makes it difficult to confirm any claims about the nation's nuclear capacity. The Federation of American Scientists places its possible arsenal at fewer than 10 warheads, saying that although U.S. intelligence "claims that North Korea may have assembled a few nuclear weapons and North Korea claims to have some, no information is available in the public domain that proves [either]."

In 2003, the International Atomic Energy Agency announced that Iran was pursuing a secret nuclear weapons program. The Tehran government claims it is developing nuclear power only for civilian applications. In a follow-up report this year, the IAEA maintained that the country was still involved in a weapons-development program, and had enriched its domestic store of uranium to a weapons-grade capacity.

And Syria, according to intelligence sources cited by the Federation of American Scientists, has been coordinating on nuclear weapons research with North Korea for more than a decade. In 2007, an Israeli airstrike destroyed a target in Syria that intelligence officials later told the U.S. Congress was an undeclared nuclear reactor. The reactor was similar to the research reactor near the North Korean city of Yongbyon, the sources reported. This prompted the White House to officially charge that Syria was pursuing a "covert" nuclear scheme to refine weapons-grade fissile material.

The nightmare of possible "loose nukes"


During the Cold War, the Soviet Union sent nuclear material to 17 Soviet republics and allies. Since the end of the Cold War 20 years ago and the breakup of the Soviet Union, most of those countries have fallen through the cracks of international nuclear monitoring efforts. A 2005 report from the Harvard University Kennedy School of Government found that enough fissile material existed in the former Soviet bloc to create more than 80,000 nuclear weapons.

Only half of that material had been secured by agencies like the IAEA.

The United States and Russia have since sought to crack down on the traffic in illegal nuclear material in Eastern Europe, but such efforts are painstaking. The great fear is that a terrorist group could grab nuclear material from this underground market to build a "dirty bomb," or even collaborate with a state sponsor to deploy an actual warhead. That scenario is terrifyingly easy to envision, as the Kennedy Center's resident nuclear terrorism expert, Graham Allison, has made plain.
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PostSubject: Re: Obama imagines a world without nukes, so who’s got 'em?   Obama imagines a world without nukes, so who’s got 'em? Empty4/8/2010, 5:51 pm

UrRight wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1531http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1531

Most of you probably caught this article off Yahoo.com.

My question is...what is the purpose of him signing a treaty with Russia, when we don't know what's out there?


First of all, here is the correct address for the article...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts1531

The article answers your question.

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According to the Arms Control Association, a nonpartisan research group that advocates arms control, America and Russia are far and away the biggest nuclear powers. Russia has 2,787 strategic warheads (weapons placed in long-range delivery systems) and about 2,000 tactical warheads (weapons with a shorter range and lower payload). When you include non-operational weapons, Russia's total stockpile is about 8,000 warheads.

The United States has 2,126 strategic warheads and about 500 tactical ones, with a total stockpile of around 6,000.


If you don't think that reducing both countries' nuclear arsenals by 30% (and reducing the number of launchers by half) is a worthy endeavor, then I don't know what to say to you. It's an extremely important step if we are to ever rid the world of these heinous weapons.

Granted, it's only another step toward ridding the world of nuclear weapons, but if The US and Russia don't set an example for the rest of the world, we will not have the credibility needed to encourage other nations to follow suit.

Everyone should be applauding this accord.
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We live in a troubled world, and the United States and China, as two great nations, share a special responsibility to help reduce the risks of war. We both agree that there can be only one sane policy to preserve our precious civilization in this modern age: A nuclear war cannot be won and must never be fought. And no matter how great the obstacles may seem, we must never stop our efforts to reduce the weapons of war. We must never stop at all until we see the day when nuclear arms have been banished from the face of this Earth.
Ronald Reagan at Fudan University in Shanghai, China
April 30, 1984
http://www.reagan.utexas.edu/archives/speeches/1984/43084e.htm
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Heard on various cable news outlets that the Senate is not going to allow this.

Iran just got bombed (I was half-asleep) in front of a cop station???? Something like that. So now he's got the romper room all shook up.

Their throwing rumors around about going to war with Iran.
My opinion: We already do enough to set examples to the world.

He takes up issue before tackling real issues: our economy.

Israel is now on bad terms with us. Afghanistan wants us out....tell me why he is doing foreigh crap right now,. and ignoring problems at home?

I wish he'd just pull our troops out, and refrain from telling other countries to be a democracy. Those wars were mislead by Bush. Repect the countries that want to live the way they want.

Keep the arsenal...and pay attention...we have terrorists in our own country. Fold up the borders - should have kicked the illegals out before the census, and then dwell on health care. The illegals will get it anyway. Fixed the root of the problem, rather than put a temporary band-aid on it.

Scorp - did you fight in any wars as stupid as this one? Three, now...won't be long at the rate we're going, we're gonna be in a chemical war...forget the nukes.

My dad said this is not a war like they fought (for freedom). This is a war of politicial wanna-bees.

And he's a "Semper-Fi!"
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PostSubject: Re: Obama imagines a world without nukes, so who’s got 'em?   Obama imagines a world without nukes, so who’s got 'em? Empty4/10/2010, 9:56 am

Quick question: What is going to happen once they place sanctions on Iran?

Pizz our own oil....? Ten years from now? What's the hold-up? Do it now.

Obama needs to stay home, quit going on tv, partying and just say "no comment" about Sarah Palin, Rush and the like

Bush was bad, but at least he said, "No comment" when challenged by a remark of someone else from a different party. He lead...he didn't "follow". Like it or not. He presented himself in a "statesmanship-like". This bubble head Obama acts like Blago on TV. When he answered about Palin, he claimed the same thing in his response....well, if my so and so says it's fine, then that's what I'll do" - that told me he didn't know squat, unless you like paying his advisers to inform him. He actually played the fool Sarah made him out to be. Why is she making more money than him?

Stay out of how other countries running their business.

Geez, would you go next door and tell your neighbor how to run her household?


We can't take care of our roads, schools, educate the children and keep the gang-bangers off the streets, but we sure can take care of other countries.

More kids are getting killed in America by gangs than the troops in war.

You can't take care of anyone else unless you take care of yourself.

It won't pass the senate - wanna bet?
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